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Limbo is not de fide. That is true.Limbo is not a dogma and is not de fide. In point of fact, we just do not know. All we can do is to trust in God’s infinite divine mercy knowing that whatever he does, it will be the correct, proper, most just and most merciful solution.
Deacon Ed B
The idea that we do not know anything certain about limbo is absolutely false. Limbo is based on de fide and theologically certain doctrine. The denial of limbo is not possible because of these certain doctrines and dogmas.
After looking at this thread I see it is full of proofs of what I am saying:
Pope Innocent III said:"…We say that a distinction must be made, that sin is twofold: namely, original and actual: original, which is contracted without consent; and actual which is committed with consent. Original, therefore, which is committed without consent, is remitted without consent through the power of the sacrament; but actual, which is contracted with consent, is not mitigated in the slightest without consent…The punishment of original sin is the depravation of the vision of God, but the punishment of actual sin is the torments of everlasting hell…" (See Denz.410, Pope Innocent III)
Nequaquam Sine Dolore said:(The Roman Church) teaches…that the souls…of those who die in mortal sin, or with only original sin, descend immediately into hell; however, to be punished with different penalties and in different places.
And here are some sources that touch upon limbo itself or infants who die without baptism:
Synod of Pistoia:
Council of Florence:The doctrine which rejects as a Pelagian fable, that place of the lower regions (which the faithful generally designate by the name of limbo of children) in which the souls of those departing with the sole guilt of original sin are punished with the punishment of the condemned, exclusive of the punishment of fire, just as if, by this very fact, that these who remove the punishment of fire introduced that middle place and state free of guilt and of punishment between the kingdom of God and eternal damnation, such as that about which the Pelagians idly talk,–false, rash, injurious to Catholic schools.
Pius XII:Regarding children, indeed, because of danger of death, which can often take place, when no help can be brought to them by another remedy than through than through the sacrament of baptism, through which they are snatched from the domination of the Devil and adopted among the sons of God, it advises that holy baptism ought not to be deferred for forty or eighty days, or any time according to the observance of certain people, but it should be conferred as soon as it can be done conveniently, but so that, when danger of death is imminent, they be baptized in the form of the Church, early without delay, even by a layman or woman, if a priest should be lacking.
SFDIf what We have said up to now deals with the protection and the care of natural life, it should hold all the more in regard to the supernatural life which the newly born infant receives with Baptism. In the present economy there is no other way of communicating this life to the child who has not yet the use of reason. But, nevertheless, the state of grace at the moment of death is absolutely necessary for salvation. Without it, it is not possible to attain supernatural happiness, the beatific vision of God. An act of love can suffice for an adult to obtain sanctifying grace and supply for the absence of Baptism; for the unborn child or for the newly born, this way is not open.