Is our Marriage valid?

[emom]

My husband received an annulment with a restriction of seeing a tribunial counselor. He does not want to go through that process anymore and think that our marriage is valid. We were married in a chapel after his annulment was granted. I didn’t think too much of it, but now I really want to get married in the Catholic church.

Is our marriage considering living in sin? Since I am a confirmed catholic that married outside of the Church? He did go through the RCIA and became catholic, but he is not practicing.

 

[bear06]

emom:

My husband received an annulment with a restriction of seeing a tribunial counselor. He does not want to go through that process anymore and think that our marriage is valid. We were married in a chapel after his annulment was granted. I didn’t think too much of it, but now I really want to get married in the Catholic church.

Is our marriage considering living in sin? Since I am a confirmed catholic that married outside of the Church? He did go through the RCIA and became catholic, but he is not practicing.

Just off the head I’d say yes. I’m assuming that this wasn’t a Catholic chapel and it sounded like your husbands annulment was contingent on something. Catholic must be married with a priest or deacon officiating to be a valid marriage for the first thing (unless stranded on a dessert island for awhile). The priest of deacon must have faculties to officiate, both of the intended must not have any impediments (still being married would be one), etc., etc., etc.

 

[bear06]

Sorry. My yes would be to “Is our marriage considering living in sin?” I’d consult a priest and/or the marriage tribunal.

 

[Br.Rich_SFO]

emom:

My husband received an annulment with a restriction of seeing a tribunial counselor. He does not want to go through that process anymore and think that our marriage is valid. We were married in a chapel after his annulment was granted. I didn’t think too much of it, but now I really want to get married in the Catholic church.

Is our marriage considering living in sin? Since I am a confirmed catholic that married outside of the Church? He did go through the RCIA and became catholic, but he is not practicing.

Since I am a confirmed catholic that married outside of the Church? He did go through the RCIA and became catholic, but he is not practicing.

Of course your Marriage is probably not valid for more than one reason.

 

[otm]

emom:

My husband received an annulment with a restriction of seeing a tribunial counselor. He does not want to go through that process anymore and think that our marriage is valid. We were married in a chapel after his annulment was granted. I didn’t think too much of it, but now I really want to get married in the Catholic church.

Is our marriage considering living in sin? Since I am a confirmed catholic that married outside of the Church? He did go through the RCIA and became catholic, but he is not practicing.

Your post is not entirely clear.

Your husband received an annulment.

He was required to go through counseling.

He appears to have gone through some counseling.

He does not want to continue with counseling.

You were married in a “chapel”, which would seem to indicate not a Catholic wedding.

It would appear that you have not had your marriage blessed.

He has become Catholic, but does not seem to be following some basic tennats of the Church, such as Mass on Sunday.

From the above, it would seem that there are a number of questions.

1. was the annulment given subject to successful completion of counseling? I would suspect not, but rather that he could not either marry in a Church wedding, or could not have this marriage blessed, unless and until he was considered to have successfully completed counseling.
2. has he in fact completed the counseling? Or did he just quit?
3. if he completed the counseling as required, why have you not had the marriage blessed?
4. if he has not completed it, why not? Is it getting into areas he does not want to change, or finds he cannot successfully change, in his life? Have you participated in the counseling, or are you aware, other than from comments from him, what the substance of the counseling was about?
5. is there something else about this that casues him to think the marriage is valid, or is it just that he doesn’t want to deal with whatever the counseling was about?

The short answer is that if you have, as a Catholic, married outside the Church (that is, in either a civil ceremony, or a religious non-Catholic ceremony without the explicit permission of the bishop) and have not had the marriage blessed (or regularized) in the Church, yes, you are living in a state of objective sin.

The long answer is that in the above questions, there are a series of issues; I would hope that you and he together would address them openly, honestly, and completely. Failure to get at the bottom of what is going on within the dynamics of your marriage is not a foundation builder for a lifetime committment. In short, you are heading for trouble.

 

[emom]

1. The annulment was granted, but to be married again. He would have to go to counseling.
2. No, he does not want to go. He believes our marriaged is already sacred in God’s eyes, and a “church” has not validity of telling him different.
3. He has rejected the catholic faith. The confirmation of him was something that he did as a mistake. he wants to get re-baptized somewhere else. These things happened withing the last 6 months as I am being drawn closer to my catholic faith.

otm:

Your post is not entirely clear.

Your husband received an annulment.

He was required to go through counseling.

He appears to have gone through some counseling.

He does not want to continue with counseling.

You were married in a “chapel”, which would seem to indicate not a Catholic wedding.

It would appear that you have not had your marriage blessed.

He has become Catholic, but does not seem to be following some basic tennats of the Church, such as Mass on Sunday.

From the above, it would seem that there are a number of questions.

1. was the annulment given subject to successful completion of counseling? I would suspect not, but rather that he could not either marry in a Church wedding, or could not have this marriage blessed, unless and until he was considered to have successfully completed counseling.
2. has he in fact completed the counseling? Or did he just quit?
3. if he completed the counseling as required, why have you not had the marriage blessed?
4. if he has not completed it, why not? Is it getting into areas he does not want to change, or finds he cannot successfully change, in his life? Have you participated in the counseling, or are you aware, other than from comments from him, what the substance of the counseling was about?
5. is there something else about this that casues him to think the marriage is valid, or is it just that he doesn’t want to deal with whatever the counseling was about?

The short answer is that if you have, as a Catholic, married outside the Church (that is, in either a civil ceremony, or a religious non-Catholic ceremony without the explicit permission of the bishop) and have not had the marriage blessed (or regularized) in the Church, yes, you are living in a state of objective sin.

The long answer is that in the above questions, there are a series of issues; I would hope that you and he together would address them openly, honestly, and completely. Failure to get at the bottom of what is going on within the dynamics of your marriage is not a foundation builder for a lifetime committment. In short, you are heading for trouble.

 

[Karin]

1. The annulment was granted, but to be married again. He would have to go to counseling.

1. No, he does not want to go. He believes our marriaged is already sacred in God’s eyes, and a “church” has not validity of telling him different.

In regards to the answers you have supplied, No your marriage is not sacramental in the eyes of the Church.

 

[puzzleannie]

it is not possible for you to receive a useful answer on this forum, see your parish priest at once for pastoral counselling on the state of your own soul, and for assistance in your marriage issue, and for assistance in finding marriage counselling, since it certainly appears from what you have said here that your husband had no intention of consenting to the demands and vows of marriage.