Is Saturday, Jan 1 a holy day of obligation?

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I know that January 1st is, in general, a day of obligation but because it falls on Saturday is there still a requirement to attend mass if one intends to attend on Sunday as well?

I have found references that state that when January 1 (Mary, Mother of God), August 15 (solemnity of the Assumption) or November 1 (All Saints) falls on a Saturday or Monday the obligation is aborgated. However I have found other references that do not state that rule - so I’m not sure what the offical teaching is.

Can someone provide a reference to an authoritative answer?

I do intend to attend on Saturday - I am asking for my personal education not for an “out” 🙂

Thanks.

Robert.
 
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rhorvick:
I know that January 1st is, in general, a day of obligation but because it falls on Saturday is there still a requirement to attend mass if one intends to attend on Sunday as well?

I have found references that state that when January 1 (Mary, Mother of God), August 15 (solemnity of the Assumption) or November 1 (All Saints) falls on a Saturday or Monday the obligation is aborgated. However I have found other references that do not state that rule - so I’m not sure what the offical teaching is.

Can someone provide a reference to an authoritative answer?

I do intend to attend on Saturday - I am asking for my personal education not for an “out” 🙂

Thanks.

Robert.
January 1st is always a Holy Day. However in certain places like the US the Bishops have decided that January 1st comes under the Saturday/Monday rule.
 
Does this mean that if I attend tonight’s vigil Mass at 7, it counts as being there for the Solemnity of Mary Mass tomorrow?
 
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Cherub:
Does this mean that if I attend tonight’s vigil Mass at 7, it counts as being there for the Solemnity of Mary Mass tomorrow?
The Vigil Mass at 7PM on the 31st would be the vigil of the Holy Day. A normal Saturday Mass would not have a “Vigil”. Also attending the Holy Day Vigil on Friday evening however would not be attending a “First Saturday Mass” you actually have to attend a “First Saturday Mass” on Saturday.
 
Br. Rich SFO:
The Vigil Mass at 7PM on the 31st would be the vigil of the Holy Day. A normal Saturday Mass would not have a “Vigil”. Also attending the Holy Day Vigil on Friday evening however would not be attending a “First Saturday Mass” you actually have to attend a “First Saturday Mass” on Saturday.
So, I decided not to go to the Holy day Mass today thinking it was not a day of obligation and opting to go do something else instead…should I be off to confession, or is it okay to go to Communion still and just throw this in my next regular confession?
 
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flick427:
So, I decided not to go to the Holy day Mass today thinking it was not a day of obligation and opting to go do something else instead…should I be off to confession, or is it okay to go to Communion still and just throw this in my next regular confession?
Maybe I didn’t say it very well. January 1st 2005 was a Holy Day in the Universal Church Calandar. It was NOT a Holy Day of Obligation in the United States (it was in Canada) because the US Bishops decided that any Holy Day on Saturday or Monday (with certain exceptions, like Christmas) was NOT an obligation. Certain Feasts could be transfered to the nearst open Sunday if in Ordinary Time.
 
Thanks for the clarification because I wasn’t sure ankymore. I couldn’t find my church bulletin. With going twice last weekend, and the rest of the week seeming like the weekend because we were all off work, I got very confused as to what day of the week it really was. I didn’t go on Saturday, thinking that I had heard we could combine it with Sunday, but they I wondered if I had really heard that. After having just gone to confession to be clear of those problems, I didn’t want to get off on the wrong foot this year. Thanks again.
 
That is crazy, what the heck is the church coming to, the circumcision of our Lord and the Naming of the child Jesus, which is what Jan 1st is all about, some Bishops decided that because it fell on a Sat that we did not have to go to Mass that day? Well I went anyway. I did not know why there was no mass. Just more fuel for my Traditionalist friends. I am outraged, I was crazed when the Priest said that we did not have to attend on All Saints Day, but this just adds fuel to the fire , I can see if it fell on a Sunday. I think the church as our Lady said at Fatima has become corrupt from within I am sad to say.
Br. Rich SFO:
Maybe I didn’t say it very well. January 1st 2005 was a Holy Day in the Universal Church Calandar. It was NOT a Holy Day of Obligation in the United States (it was in Canada) because the US Bishops decided that any Holy Day on Saturday or Monday (with certain exceptions, like Christmas) was NOT an obligation. Certain Feasts could be transfered to the nearst open Sunday if in Ordinary Time.
 
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terrcatholic:
That is crazy, what the heck is the church coming to, the circumcision of our Lord and the Naming of the child Jesus, which is what Jan 1st is all about, some Bishops decided that because it fell on a Sat that we did not have to go to Mass that day? Well I went anyway. I did not know why there was no mass. Just more fuel for my Traditionalist friends. I am outraged, I was crazed when the Priest said that we did not have to attend on All Saints Day, but this just adds fuel to the fire , I can see if it fell on a Sunday. I think the church as our Lady said at Fatima has become corrupt from within I am sad to say.
What is really interesting is that by some of the comments I have read here and heard you would think that the US Bishops somehow prohibited anyone from attending Mass on Saturday! Any Catholic who wished to attend, attended. I believe that if our churches were jammed to the choir loft we would then send a clear message. However the parish I attended was at most maybe a 1/8 full. What do you think would happen if Sunday became optional and the Church said "If you love Christ you will come to Mass. Howmany would sleep-in?
 
Hey guess what. CHurch was locked so I am giving my self general Absoloution. Not enough Priests.
 
Br. Rich SFO:
Maybe I didn’t say it very well. January 1st 2005 was a Holy Day in the Universal Church Calandar. It was NOT a Holy Day of Obligation in the United States (it was in Canada) because the US Bishops decided that any Holy Day on Saturday or Monday (with certain exceptions, like Christmas) was NOT an obligation. Certain Feasts could be transfered to the nearst open Sunday if in Ordinary Time.
I was not aware of this rule, but when I looked at the Patron Saints calendar I got from my parish, the statement in the box for Jan 1 read , “Since the Solemnity of ‘Mary, Mother of God,’ falls on a Saturday this year, in accordance with the decision of the USCCB, it is not observed as a holy day of obligation.”

When I pried myself off of the ceiling, I sat for a while and thought about that statement.
While it’s true that, as Br. Rich SFO says, no one is prohibiting anyone from attending Mass on Saturday, the USCCB, the Catholic authority in the Diocese ot the United States, has said that we aren’t required to go to Mass. Read Milgram’s “Obedience to authority,” if you haven’t already done so.
It’s the Solemnity of Mary, Mother of God for crying out loud. This Saturday/Monday rule is just another sign, like “Holy Thursday” being moved to Sunday, of the dumbing down of the
Church in the U.S. It’s as if the bishops are saying," We can’t expect Catholics to go Mass two days in a row," or, “Heck, they’re all going to go out Friday night and get soused, anyway. Nobody’s going to go to Mass hung over.”
It’s exactly the same thinking as saying, “Teenagers are going to have sex no matter what, so we might as well teach them to use condoms.”
I try so very hard and pray fervently to respect the bishops as the direct descendents, by the laying on of hands, of the Apostles, but decisions like this make it soooo hard.
Our parish treated Saturday as a holy day, and the 9:00 a.m. Mass was 80% full, not to mention the vigil the evening before.
Being a Catholic is not supposed to be easy; following Jesus is not suposed to be easy. Demand obedience, be orthodox (in the traditional sense) and the churches will be swollen, if not by seniors, then by young people looking for direction and discipine.
Pope John Paul II knows this. That’s why the Youth Days are so popular; he makes demands of the young people.
If the Church cannot require a member to get his butt out of bed on a Saturday or a Monday, why bother at all?
We have to tighten discipline up, both on the clergy, (Bishop Flynn, Richard McBrien?) and the laity (John Kerry, Ted Kennedy?) and demand a little, just a little effort from those in the pews.
We might be amazed at the resurgence. Talk about “renewal,” that’s the way to get it!
 
Thanks Brother Rich for clearing this up. Although I had been somewhat aware of the new rule for the USA, I didn’t realize that the Jan 1 Solemnity of Mary was not an obligatory holy day in the U.S. until after it was all over. Last Sunday’s bulletin did not say one way or the other. This didn’t apply to Christmas, did it?

Like others, I’m a little sad about the Saturday/Monday rule, but especially about Ascension Thursday. When I mentiioned this to a formerly Catholic relative, he was nearly indignant. “What! So you celebrate Ascension-Thursday-Sunday??!!”
 
Br. Rich SFO:
What do you think would happen if Sunday became optional and the Church said "If you love Christ you will come to Mass. Howmany would sleep-in?
Wow, super question Brother Rich, and one that should give us all pause.

You have skillfully reminded us that we as individuals are responsible for our relationship with God. The Church is certainly a HUGE help, but in the end, it is each one of us who will stand before the Lord without the aid of another person or the Church to defend us. So stop knocking the Church people and take a look inward.
 
I’m glad the obligation is lifted for this holy day this year. I wish they would drop the obligation altogether. Some people can drop what they’re doing 4 times in 2 weeks to go to Mass, but not everyone can. I live 20 minutes from the nearest Catholic Church, and I cannot drive- whenever I’m home, my parents (who are not Catholic, and are being generous to take me to Mass- which makes it very difficult for them to go to their own church on Sundays. It would not have been right to ask for a ride to Mass 4 times in 2 weeks, when they’d rather not take me at all. It is good to follow the rules, but people shouldn’t step on others’ toes to do it, otherwise they are losing sight of what it’s all about.
 
Br. Rich SFO:
Maybe I didn’t say it very well. January 1st 2005 was a Holy Day in the Universal Church Calandar. It was NOT a Holy Day of Obligation in the United States (it was in Canada) …
Just for the record, it also wasn’t a Holy Day of Obligation in Australia.

Here in Oz we only have three Holy Days of Obligation: Easter Sunday, Christmas Day and the Assumption.
 
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