Is TAC considered Orthodox?

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I’ve been attending a church that is a member of the Anglican Church in America, which is part of the Traditional Anglican Communion. Are the TAC churches considered an English Orthodox church?

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I’ve been attending a church that is a member of the Anglican Church in America, which is part of the Traditional Anglican Communion. Are the TAC churches considered an English Orthodox church?

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I doubt it. Only the Eastern Orthodox are Orthodox
 
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I’ve been attending a church that is a member of the Anglican Church in America, which is part of the Traditional Anglican Communion. Are the TAC churches considered an English Orthodox church?

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If by “Orthodox” you mean “Eastern Orthodox”, no. If you mean “not heterodox”, yes. The TAC and the ACA are what are called Continuing Anglicans, who split from ECUSA and the official Anglican Communion over doctrinal issues related to liturgy, female “ordination”, and sexual issues.

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If by “Orthodox” you mean “Eastern Orthodox”, no. If you mean “not heterodox”, yes. The TAC and the ACA are what are called Continuing Anglicans, who split from ECUSA and the official Anglican Communion over doctrinal issues related to liturgy, female “ordination”, and sexual issues.

GKC

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Are they the group who wanted to go to Rome ? Or are that lot Australian ?​

 
Of all the Continuing Anglican “ecclesial communities” the TAC is certainly the most vocal in seeking reunion with the Holy See. While the TAC doesn’t buy everyhing in the Catholic Cathechism, its clergy uses it as a ready point of reference and departure for day-to-day doctrinal questions.

Saying that the TAC “wants to go to Rome” would probably be overstating the point, however, else it would be there by now. Rumour is that all but two TAC bishops are interested in initiating formal reunion talks and then seeing how things go, but it would probably be fairer to say that the consensus TAC view is that the body should take up the Anglican-Roman Catholic International Dialogue where the Anglican Communion dropped it with the ordination of women priests.

Rome isn’t saying much on the issue, possibly because it isn’t quite yet ready to give up on ARCIC just yet, and does notwant to be seen as trying to exploit the Anglican Communion’s current difficulties.

The TAC is the largest Continuing Anglican body with 14 provinces spread out through much of the world. It claims a membership of 400,000 or so, though these numbers are hard to verify. Most of this membership, if not the leadership, is in the developing world. English is reportedly only the fourth most common language used in the liturgy. The dominant ethos is Anglo-Catholic, and I suspect the TAC will become the nucleus of a broader reunion of Anglo-Catholics outside the Anglcian Communion within a few years’ time.

The Primate, Archbishop Hepworth, is an Australian, though his predecessor, Archbishop Falk, was (and I guess still is) an American.

The TAC just finished its synod of bishop’s in Portsmouth, England this weekend, where the status of the “Rome” issue was to figure prominantly on the agenda, but there has been no word on what if anything had been decided. It may be that some of the key players are trying to polish up a consensus communiqué in extra innings. We can only wait and see.

At least one very occasional poster on this forum, Traditional Ang, is a TAC member and might be able to tell you more if you e-mail him privately.

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I’ve been attending a church that is a member of the Anglican Church in America, which is part of the Traditional Anglican Communion. Are the TAC churches considered an English Orthodox church?

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No. They are part of the Continuing Anglican (orthodox Anglicans who removed themselves from the modern Anglican Communion and believe themselves to be worshiping in the ancient English Catholic Faith) movement and are trying to come into full communion with Rome, not Constantinople.
 
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Are they the group who wanted to go to Rome ? Or are that lot Australian ?​

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It is as Contarini said. The ACA is the local representative jurisdiction of the TAC, in the US. In a sense, the ACA formed the TAC, in the sense that it predated it and helped organize it, and, IIRC, the first primate of the TAC was the then leader of the ACA, ++ Falk… My mind slips a little on the details.

The TAC is currently headed by ++ Hepworth, as Primate. And certainly, Archbishop H. has been vocal in a desire to make some sort of union with Rome. Opinions vary about how successful he has been.

GKC

posterus traditus Anglicanus
 
Well, I do know the last TEC Bishop to jump the Tiber is seeking ordination under the PP. Maybe he can do some more good in working to get TAC into full communion.

Heck, the Personal Prelature dream may even go on the table. We can dream, right? 👍
 
I don’t know what will happen with TAC but it is a nice thought that they would have intercommunion with the Catholic Church. I really enjoyed that Canadian video about TAC and just the whole concept of preserving the English (Anglican) heritage and worship style without being absorbed.

GKC may answer this better but I imagine they may have to give on some things (ie be allowed married Priests but no further married Bishops or something similar).

Can’t wait to see how things develop.

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Anglican group seeks full communion with Rome
16th October 2007 Statement authorised by the TAC Primate
" The College of Bishops of the Traditional Anglican Communion (TAC) met in Plenary Session in Portsmouth, England, in the first week of October 2007. The Bishops and Vicars-General unanimously agreed to the text of a letter to the See of Rome seeking full, corporate, sacramental union. The letter was signed solemnly by all the College and entrusted to the Primate and two bishops chosen by the College to be presented to the Holy See.

2007 August / September Issue
Canadian Synod thumbs up to visible communion with Rome or Orthodoxy
The Messenger Journal
themessenger.com.au/news.htm
 
The next issue becomes if they are given a full rite within the Latin Church in order to preserve their worship style or if they remain under the limited ‘usage’ which is given to the pastor and not the parish.

There are Anglican to Eastern Orthodox convert parishes which retain the western Mass under the Western Rite of the Antiochian Orthodox Church, so there might be pressure to give a full rite to those coming into communion with Rome, especially considering the size of the group.
 
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