Is the marriage supper of the Lamb Eucharist?

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Does the Church consider the marriage supper of the Lamb, in heaven, a participation in the Eucharist? Or is this metaphoric? Are we to consider it real food, only different than Jesus’ body and blood?

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Michael
 
Both, but the final consummation will have with a new heaven and new earth.
 
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Both, but the final consummation will have with a new heaven and new earth.
I have the same impression. Because how could it be less than what we celebrate at Mass? And we acknowledge both receiving in heart and body. I also tend to think the big difference will be our full awareness and understanding of what we are receiving. I think the element of faith will be gone. It is neccessary here, but when everything is revealed, we will know and experience the fulness of the beatific vision in our communion.

Does that make sense? Just hoping someone can better explain this heavenly supper.

Peace
Michael
 
Yes…and a new transformation of God restored to man…a new and fulfilled Eden.
 
I probably didnt post this in the right sub-forum.

I have the same impression. Because how could it be less than what we celebrate at Mass? And we acknowledge both receiving in heart and body. I also tend to think the big difference will be our full awareness and understanding of what we are receiving. I think the element of faith will be gone. It is neccessary here, but when everything is revealed, we will know and experience the fulness of the beatific vision in our communion.

Does that make sense? Just hoping someone can better explain this heavenly supper.

Peace
Michael
Yes, it is a Mass, and yes, faith and hope will then be dissolved into Love.
 
The sacraments are outward objective, concrete signs that hold the divine grace of Jesus Christ within, Who serves us from the High Altar in heaven.

At the end of the world, faith and hope will be realized with Jesus now fully present to us, and thus no more signs from God’s creation: water, bread, wine, priest representative, our marriage now consummated with Christ; no more sin due to our now realized perfect union with Jesus, and thus no need for confession. We will also be likewise in full communion with the Heavenly Father and Holy Spirit.
 
The sacraments are outward objective, concrete signs that hold the divine grace of Jesus Christ within, Who serves us from the High Altar in heaven.

At the end of the world, faith and hope will be realized with Jesus now fully present to us, and thus no more signs from God’s creation: water, bread, wine, priest representative, our marriage now consummated with Christ; no more sin due to our now realized perfect union with Jesus, and thus no need for confession. We will also be likewise in full communion with the Heavenly Father and Holy Spirit.
Yes I agree.

[Sacramental Theology is quite distinct and different from Eschatology (End Times).]

God Bless.
 
When that time arrives all the Sacraments will cease.
I believe this, in part. Because I see all the Sacraments as related to living in this world. But the Mass, and Eucharist in particular, is not so easy to dismiss as finished. If anything, I think completed in heaven.
Yes, it is a Mass, and yes, faith and hope will then be dissolved into Love.
I believe this in whole. God’s love will be both realized and experienced without any doubt or selfishness. Those who let God’s love bear fruit in their lives will be there to find its joy.
The sacraments are outward objective, concrete signs that hold the divine grace of Jesus Christ within, Who serves us from the High Altar in heaven.

At the end of the world, faith and hope will be realized with Jesus now fully present to us, and thus no more signs from God’s creation: water, bread, wine, priest representative, our marriage now consummated with Christ; no more sin due to our now realized perfect union with Jesus, and thus no need for confession. We will also be likewise in full communion with the Heavenly Father and Holy Spirit.
So, my sense is that heaven would be an eternal Mass, but Mass as we know it here is actual food. It is not food for the stomache and taste, but nevertheless food that is eaten. This food, which is the Lord’s body, is a mystery for us as Christians to discern very reverently. It is the result of our doubt and weakness that this food was given. It is for us to proclaim our faith and yet also to be strengthened at the same time.

I’ve thought about Eucharist like this; It is the provided way for all Christians in every age to demonstrate that they have genuine faith in the whole gospel. There is no single way to fully express our advantage in receiving. It is Jesus, in whom is hidden the entire treasure of wisdom. It is belief that God was made perfect in humble humanity; flesh and blood. Can someone say for sure, if they were living in the time of Jesus and He walked up to them with His message that they would receive it? That without seeing His resurection and ascending into heaven they would believe? That without the whole life of Jesus studied and held to scrutiny would give such deep faith and conversion? Yes, those who dedicate themselves to Our Eucharist are saying yes to His gospel. They are saying yes to needing His sacrifice, they are saying yes to His divinity, they are saying yes that the power of life comes down from heaven in the Holy Spirit and rests on Jesus the only son, they are saying as only a member of the body of believers, they are offering together through one high priestly sacrifice all of their sacrifices and efforts for the kingdom of God.

This makes much sense to me in this world of faith and hope. But the mystery of a heavenly Mass being a supper is too mysterious to understand. It may be real food, it may be the Eucharist, It may be just the union of all of His children purged of all darkness into His light. I don’t know

Michael
 
When we enter the church, we renew our baptismal promises with Holy Water. When Mass begins, we are no longer in the world, but participating in the life of God Himself.

We are no longer in the world’s linear time, but in God’s eternal time.

We are on sacred ground, and when we attend Mass, Jesus Christ is ministering to us from the heavenly altar before our Heavenly Father, the angels and the saints. He stands wounded but triumphant, the Lamb of God.

We may be standing still in the pew, but the Holy Spirit is carrying each one of us, both individually and the entire gathering, we being brought before the Father.

You can say that in this world, the Mass is the first step into heaven, into the Holy of Holies.

True and deep participation of the Mass is hearing the Word of God with full attention and recollection, and letting His Word penetrate us. From here we go into the Liturgy of the Eucharist, and witness the Father through Jesus Christ preparing us for the Sacred Banquet.

True participation at Mass is knowing the parts of the Mass and what they do, the understanding of sacred space and time, and seeing that the greatest work we can do for God is to participate in full comprehension the Mass as atonement for sin in the world, and for new life and redemption. At Mass, we stand united with God to overcome the world through Jesus Christ, active through the Church.
 
When we enter the church, we renew our baptismal promises with Holy Water. When Mass begins, we are no longer in the world, but participating in the life of God Himself.

We are no longer in the world’s linear time, but in God’s eternal time.

We are on sacred ground, and when we attend Mass, Jesus Christ is ministering to us from the heavenly altar before our Heavenly Father, the angels and the saints. He stands wounded but triumphant, the Lamb of God.

We may be standing still in the pew, but the Holy Spirit is carrying each one of us, both individually and the entire gathering, we being brought before the Father.

You can say that in this world, the Mass is the first step into heaven, into the Holy of Holies.

True and deep participation of the Mass is hearing the Word of God with full attention and recollection, and letting His Word penetrate us. From here we go into the Liturgy of the Eucharist, and witness the Father through Jesus Christ preparing us for the Sacred Banquet.

True participation at Mass is knowing the parts of the Mass and what they do, the understanding of sacred space and time, and seeing that the greatest work we can do for God is to participate in full comprehension the Mass as atonement for sin in the world, and for new life and redemption. At Mass, we stand united with God to overcome the world through Jesus Christ, active through the Church.
I am glad you see the mysteries so reverently in the Mass. In my everyday life, I am trying to keep Mass in the forefront of my heart. I have much to grow. Do you think the first converts had this kind of understanding of Breaking Bread? I think the essential Christ in their breaking bread was there. The depth of understanding may have varied with individuals. There is, obviously, the communal aspect of the sacrament, but just like all prayer and devotion, individuals have varying depths of understanding, focus, holiness, etc.

Our Eucharist is sooo challenging! The Lord is opening my heart to His conviction and I am feeling like a worm on a hook! I am approaching in fear and trembling these days. It is very difficult, like willingly steping into purgatory.

Thanks for coming back here Kathleen
Michael
 
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