Is the Mormon God/Heavenly Father described in the Bible?

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Tony888 said:
Steve, accepted bible commentary contradicts your claim. Jeremiah contradicted himself.
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Read literally, these verses promise the permanent restoration of the Davidic throne and (of the Levitical priesthood. As a matter of fact Zedekiah was the last king of David’s line, and the Levitical priest-hood has long passed away. Both these changes Jeremiah himself foretold Jeremiah 22:30; Jeremiah 3:16.
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Jeremiah 22:30, which you referenced, is speaking of Jehoiachin who is to be considered “childless” because of his seven sons, none became king. Jeremiah 33:17-22 is speaking of the Messianic kingdom and the covenant promises that accompany it, one of those being the continuance of the priesthood as a fulfillment of the Levitical covenant. As far as your “accepted bible commentary”, I would just have to ask, accepted by who?

Again, your reference to Jeremiah 3:16 does nothing to contradict Jeremiah 33:17-22. How in the world do you draw such a conclusion?

All of this brings up an all-important point, however. If you truly believe that Jeremiah contradicts himself, then how can you believe any of it? This idea among Mormons that the Bible contains erroneous information, especially when speaking of the prophesies concerning Christ, is extremely disturbing. If I could not be sure which parts of the Bible contained truth and which contained error, I would throw it in the trash can because it would be worthless as far as conveying truth with any certainty.

You need to really re-think your position here, or just admit that biblical scripture is secondary at best in your order of priorites concerning revelation.
 
SteveVH said:
Jeremiah 22:30, which you referenced, is speaking of Jehoiachin who is to be considered “childless” because of his seven sons, none became king. Jeremiah 33:17-22 is speaking of the Messianic kingdom and the covenant promises that accompany it, one of those being the continuance of the priesthood as a fulfillment of the Levitical covenant. As far as your “accepted bible commentary”, I would just have to ask, accepted by who?

Again, your reference to Jeremiah 3:16 does nothing to contradict Jeremiah 33:17-22. How in the world do you draw such a conclusion?

All of this brings up an all-important point, however. If you truly believe that Jeremiah contradicts himself, then how can you believe any of it? This idea among Mormons that the Bible contains erroneous information, especially when speaking of the prophesies concerning Christ, is extremely disturbing. If I could not be sure which parts of the Bible contained truth and which contained error, I would throw it in the trash can because it would be worthless as far as conveying truth with any certainty.

You need to really re-think your position here, or just admit that biblical scripture is secondary at best in your order of priorites concerning revelation.
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Mormons truly wish tohave their Biblical Cake and eat it too. If they find something in the Bible they like, then it was translated correctly. If there is something they dislike, then it was NOT translated correctly. Pretty cool, if you think about it.
 
ParkerD said:
To SteveVH or Jay53 or general readers,

Jeremiah 33:14 and 15 talks specifically about “in those days, at that time”, when “Jerusalem shall dwell safely”, which still hasn’t happened, but will unquestionably happen during the Millennium, in fulfillment of Isaiah 11.

In those days will be the fulfillment of the reuniting of Judah and Israel (the literal descendants of the house of Israel, including the descendants of Levi who will no doubt be appointed righteous priests) to live in peace together as one nation with Christ (the promised David) as their King. Then Jeremiah 33:18 will be literally fulfilled.

Verse 26 (that is, the covenant that there will be literal seed of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob who will be “rulers” among their descendants) will also be literally fulfilled “in those days” “when Jerusalem shall safely.”

Peace to each of you and to all readers.
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Sorry, Parker, I just don’t buy your itnerpretation. These verses are clearly speaking of the coming of the Messiah which did happen. Who is the “just shoot” who will “do what is right and just in the land”? It is certainly Christ.
 
I had forgotten that Tony888 had been banned so I guess I will not get a response. If there are other Mormons who would agree with his statements to which I responded (see Post #201), I would appreciate your thoughts.

Thanks.
 
You know, I am totally burned out on the subject. I just want to return to work!! Time on my hands is time to obsess. Better than drinking, I suppose.
 
TexanKnight said:
Mormons truly wish tohave their Biblical Cake and eat it too. If they find something in the Bible they like, then it was translated correctly. If there is something they dislike, then it was NOT translated correctly. Pretty cool, if you think about it.
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Texan: sounds like “Doublespeak” does it not? Doublespeak is one mean, false mind game that unfortunately has taken many hostages.
 
Pepband_Mom said:
Texan: sounds like “Doublespeak” does it not? Doublespeak is one mean, false mind game that unfortunately has taken many hostages.
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Yes. It really is genius. If you like it, then it is true. If not, then it was translated wrong. It is truly genius
 
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