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scriabin
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I’d love to actually sing the hymns while praying the LOTH; but I hardly know any of the tunes cited. Is there a music book collection for these hymns?
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Windmill
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the Christian Prayer book has the hymn melodies in the index
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scriabin
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Oh, rats. All I’ve got is the Advent/Christmas book of the 4 volume complete set.
Does anyone know if the melodies are printed in the last volume of this 4 volume set?
Does anyone know if the melodies are printed in the last volume of this 4 volume set?
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AJV
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In mine they aren’t.Oh, rats. All I’ve got is the Advent/Christmas book of the 4 volume complete set.
Does anyone know if the melodies are printed in the last volume of this 4 volume set?
But alternatively, many of the melodies are found online. Except for more recent ones like those by Deiss.
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mercygate
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Not all the melodies are in Christian Prayer.
No melodies are published in the US version of the LOTH in any of the volumes.
As AJV says, the newer ones will be hard to find. You can try the online Cyber Hymnal. You can look them up by Tune name.
Also, the LOTH puts the metric notation at the end of the hymn along with the author’s and composer’s name. The numbers show the meter. If you know another hymn with the same meter, you can use that tune. E.g., 87.87D is the meter for “Glorious Things of Thee Are Spoken”, “Joyful, Joyful, We Adore Thee,” and “Come, Thou Long Expected Jesus.”
No melodies are published in the US version of the LOTH in any of the volumes.
As AJV says, the newer ones will be hard to find. You can try the online Cyber Hymnal. You can look them up by Tune name.
Also, the LOTH puts the metric notation at the end of the hymn along with the author’s and composer’s name. The numbers show the meter. If you know another hymn with the same meter, you can use that tune. E.g., 87.87D is the meter for “Glorious Things of Thee Are Spoken”, “Joyful, Joyful, We Adore Thee,” and “Come, Thou Long Expected Jesus.”
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AJV
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Here are some at least, which we are singing until Dec 17.
On Jordan’s Bank
Come thou long expected Jesus
Hear the herald voice resounding
Wake, wake for night is dying
O come O come Emmanuel
Creator of the stars of night
Be consoled O my people
On Jordan’s Bank
Come thou long expected Jesus
Hear the herald voice resounding
Wake, wake for night is dying
O come O come Emmanuel
Creator of the stars of night
Be consoled O my people
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John_Lilburne
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At romanrite.com/hymns.html I have tunes for most of the hymns that are used with the Liturgy of the Hours (or Divine Office) which is approved for use in Australia, England, Gambia, Ghana, India, Ireland, Kenya, Liberia, New Zealand, Nigeria, Malaysia, Scotland, Sierra Leone, Singapore, Tanzania, Uganda, Wales, West Indies and Zimbabwe.
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scriabin
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Thanks for all the replies!
What in the world does the “meter” mean e.g. “87.87D”? I’m a former music teacher and it has nothing to do with what we call meter in music–4/4 time, 3/4, 6/8, etc.
What in the world does the “meter” mean e.g. “87.87D”? I’m a former music teacher and it has nothing to do with what we call meter in music–4/4 time, 3/4, 6/8, etc.
A meter refers to the syllables on each line and stanza. In your example 87.87D, you have a line of 8 syllables followed by a line of 7 syllables, then a line of 8 syllables then a line of 7 syllables. The D indicates a doubling, so it’s equivalent to 87.87.87.87.
The CM (common meter) is the equivalent of 86.86, the LM (long meter) is 88.88, and the SM (short meter) is 66.86.
If you do not know the specified tune for a hymn, you can substitute another tune with the same meter.
The CM (common meter) is the equivalent of 86.86, the LM (long meter) is 88.88, and the SM (short meter) is 66.86.
If you do not know the specified tune for a hymn, you can substitute another tune with the same meter.
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PhilotheaZ
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Many of the hymns in the LOTH have a tune name at the bottom of the hymn (for example, “Morning Has Broken” says “Melody: Bunessan” at the bottom). Sometimes several different hymns are set to the same tune. Good hymnals have an index of these in the back (The Collegeville Hymnal and The Adoremus Hymnal each have an “Index of Tune Names,” Worship has an “Index of Tunes,” etc.). If your hymnal doesn’t have the specific hymn you are looking for, it may have another one with the same melody.I’d love to actually sing the hymns while praying the LOTH; but I hardly know any of the tunes cited. Is there a music book collection for these hymns?
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drforjc
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Where are the “official” Latin hymns for the LOTH found?
Only the Liturgia Horarum contains the official Latin hymns, while the tones are in the official Divine Office hymnbook, the Liber Hymnarius.Where are the “official” Latin hymns for the LOTH found?
For English translations of the official Latin hymns, check out the Mundelein Psalter.
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drforjc
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Thanks,Only the Liturgia Horarum contains the official Latin hymns, while the tones are in the official Divine Office hymnbook, the Liber Hymnarius.
For English translations of the official Latin hymns, check out the Mundelein Psalter.
these look good- though not exactly inexpensive. Still, worth it, I think, if it allows me to skip the English hymns in the 4 vol ICEL LOTH.
Actually, a lot of the English LOTH hymns are fine and traditional. As far as I am able, I skip the Deiss hymns unless no other option is given for a particular day. Consider it an exercise in obedience.Thanks,
these look good- though not exactly inexpensive. Still, worth it, I think, if it allows me to skip the English hymns in the 4 vol ICEL LOTH.
Nevertheless, if the official Latin is what you want, it’s the Liber Hymnarius you’re after; its hymns are approved worldwide by default. I’m not certain about the approval status of the Mundelein Psalter’s hymn translation (although there is no question about its psalms and psalm tones; those are approved).
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murphy654
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The post on this have been very informative - I have seen/heard the words hymn meter but I didn;t realize there is a ‘science’ to it - thanks porthos for explaining this, most useful. I got a CD called ‘morning and evening prayer’ of CD baby which is based on the LOTH and makes a nice change for me - especially when I am driving. I have no latin at all (not taught in my school) and I don’t think I would enjoy not understanding the words to hymns.
blessings to all, Anne
blessings to all, Anne
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awalt
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You’re going to laugh at this, but I read this tip somewhere and I use it now…
I too struggled with wanting to sing the hymns and not finding them any where, or at least not easily, or not with me depending where I was praying the LOH (hotel room on business, for example).
So, I make up my own tune! It’s actually rather easy. You would be surprised how your tune morphs into some of your favorite religious songs. I can tell you, I have never gotten as much out of the hymns since I started doing this. Plus, I really look forward to the hymn starting the prayer now!
Try it - you may have a gift…
I too struggled with wanting to sing the hymns and not finding them any where, or at least not easily, or not with me depending where I was praying the LOH (hotel room on business, for example).
So, I make up my own tune! It’s actually rather easy. You would be surprised how your tune morphs into some of your favorite religious songs. I can tell you, I have never gotten as much out of the hymns since I started doing this. Plus, I really look forward to the hymn starting the prayer now!
Try it - you may have a gift…
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andy120
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I’ve found most of them here: cyberhymnal.org/tun/tun.htm
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