Hildebrand:
Thank you kindly.
What say you about the following:
The US STOLE land from the American Indians. Are we suppose to return much of the US back to them?
The original White House and many other state buildings were built on SLAVE labor, should the gov’t (federal and state) find the descendents of those slaves and pay them for their ancestors’ work?
Much of the South’s agrarian economy was built on slave labor. What happened to the 50 acres and a mule PROMISED to freed slaves? Do you think we should give all the descendants of slaves the property PROMISED to their great-great grandparents?
There are millions of people today whose wealth has been enhanced because their great-great grandparents were slave owners. So we should find the descendants of slaves and force the descendents of slave owners to pay them the wages their great-great grandparents never received.
This could go on and on and on…
All the above does not matter in this case because the poster was partly complicit in the actions of his parents, therefore culpable. I did not know that in my first post.
Hello Hildebrand,
Recently the Vatican asked Condolisa Rice to get the American justice system off the Vatican’s back. The Vatican does not want to go to court, to see if the Pope or the Vatican, bears part of the guilt in the Clergy child abuse issue. Condolisa Rice assured the Vatican that they had diplomatic imunity and the Vatican would not be held responsible for any harm they may have done or have to devouge any information of guilt in the clergy child abuse issue. The Vatican clearly does not want to pay restitution to anyone their actions may have harmed.
America has never hid or used any form of government diplomatic immunity to hide any wrong doing we may have done.
The Catholic Church, like America, has done evil in the past.
For over a thousand years the church had been the biggest landlord in Italy. Under a good administrator like Gregory the Great, lands were well managed and the peasants cared for.
Under other Popes, conditions were sometimes different. With the land came oppression of the peasants, abuse of power (prisons in the Papal States held thousands of political prisoners), and an unhealthy meddling by the church in Italian politics. Popes like Julius II are remembered as warriors rather than as pastors. Others, like Pius IX faced serious dilemmas brought on by their ownership of lands: should they exercise military force against other Catholics?
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The American Indians fought and killed other Indians to take land. There were Africans who captured Aftricans to sell to European slave traders. There is plenty of guilt to go around to every nation and peoples on earth.
Human history, the Catholic Church and governments, have done many evil things. To go back thousands of years or even hundreds of years to correct all wrongs through out the world is going to cause a great deal of litigation and hatred. Many people like you, just want to focus on the big dog (America) when they want to look for guilt. This is unfair. Let us take a look at Germany, France, England, the Church, Gingus Cong and those guys.
Until America became the Super Power of the world, there was no sence of world justice. From the begining of time, the rule of the world was who ever had the strongest armies took what ever land they could. Now that America is has the strongest armies this is no longer the case. There is now justice in the world. Let us be glad for this.
If you want to judge the world of yesterday by the justice that American has established today, then let us take a look at all the evil that has been done by all the nations, including the Catholic Church, over the past centuries. Better yet let us rid our world of diplomatic imunity and let modern justice examine the Vaticans role in Clergy child abuse and possible need for the Vatican to pay restitution to child victims they may have had a hand in harming.
Peace in Christ,
Steven Merten
www.ILOVEYOUGOD.com
