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Hey CAF,

So attending a presbyterian service yesterday (PC USA)… (don’t worry, i went to Saturday Vigil Mass the day before…), I noticed that the minister’s sermon mentioned Catholics/Catholicism/the C.C. more than he mentioned Presbyterianism/Presbyterians/the P.C… He had two references to Prebysterianism when he mentioned two churches he used to be at, and he mentioned Catholicism 4 times.
  • he mentioned Catholic/Protestant relations during the Reformation
  • He mentioned the Catholic deuterocanon. (He of course called it the Apocrypha).
  • He mentioned a Catholic priest who authored some sort of book, I regret I forget the specifics on this one.
  • and He mentioned the late PJPJII.
Is it common for protestants to talk about Catholicism more than their own sect? Let alone double the amount! 😛

Peace,
Phil
 
Hey there,
I’ve never been to a Prysbetarian service, but… in the Episcopal Church, catholicism is mentioned all the time. Note: catholic lowercase, not Catholic uppercase. Catholic as in unified. Perhaps this is the same thing? Also, I know many Protestant churches that (much to the dismay of many Protestant haters :)) speak very highly of Catholics (uppercase) and especially of such positive influential Catholics such as the late PJPJII.
 
Namaste,

No, it is common places for all people to reference “the chuch catholic”, but I am talking about when protestants refer to the Catholic Church.
And yes, this minister’s mentioning of JPJII was one of regard and respect, much like how C.S. Lewis is regarded as a great writer by many Catholics. Or also when catholics say that Martin Luther could’ve been St. Martin Luther… IF he just stayed in the C.C.

James, thanks for the link, interesting article and I can make good use of it.

Peace,
Phil
 
In my Lutheran Church, Roman Catholicism is not mentioned that much. Occasionaly it is if the Pastor wants to talk about unification, or if something in regards to unification occurs he will talk about it. The Sermons subject is always about the Gospel for the day. RC is only mentioned as stated above. That goes for pretty much every Lutheran Church I have been too.
 
JoshuaNY said:
In my Lutheran Church, Roman Catholicism is not mentioned that much. Occasionaly it is if the Pastor wants to talk about unification, or if something in regards to unification occurs he will talk about it. The Sermons subject is always about the Gospel for the day. RC is only mentioned as stated above. That goes for pretty much every Lutheran Church I have been too.
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That is the way it is in my church, the pastor never mentions the Catholic Church in his sermons, it is always about Christ. In Adult Sunday School, he might talk unification or what our differences are but never in a derogatory way. :signofcross:
 
hn160 said:
That is the way it is in my church, the pastor never mentions the Catholic Church in his sermons, it is always about Christ. In Adult Sunday School, he might talk unification or what our differences are but never in a derogatory way. :signofcross:
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Ditto.

Jon
 
The only time I have heard reference to the Catholic Church is when we have a guest speaker from it.
 
It isn’t common on my end. We tend to focus more on scripture than on others.
 
I belonged to the Christian Reformed Church for nearly 25 years and I don’t recall ever, even once, hearing them mention Catholicism, the Pope, the Saints, or anything like that, so, no I would certainly not call it either normal or normative in my experience. They also never mentioned Catholic stuff in the Free Methodist services I attended with my wife prior to our conversions. However, I would probably call that a blessing, since, as G.K. Chesterton said, the next best thing to being close enough to the Catholic Church to love Her is being far enough away not to hate Her. (And since, from what I’ve read of Calvin’s writing, he certainly had a knack for sounding like he hated Her, it was probably good for my soul that we 21st Century Calvinists just ignored Her altogether…)
 
ESMDHokie77 said:
Hey CAF,

So attending a presbyterian service yesterday (PC USA)… (don’t worry, i went to Saturday Vigil Mass the day before…), I noticed that the minister’s sermon mentioned Catholics/Catholicism/the C.C. more than he mentioned Presbyterianism/Presbyterians/the P.C… He had two references to Prebysterianism when he mentioned two churches he used to be at, and he mentioned Catholicism 4 times.
  • he mentioned Catholic/Protestant relations during the Reformation
  • He mentioned the Catholic deuterocanon. (He of course called it the Apocrypha).
  • He mentioned a Catholic priest who authored some sort of book, I regret I forget the specifics on this one.
  • and He mentioned the late PJPJII.
Is it common for protestants to talk about Catholicism more than their own sect? Let alone double the amount! 😛

Peace,
Phil
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Either he is running out idea for sermon, or being unprepared for the service.
 
DElias said:
It isn’t common on my end. We tend to focus more on scripture than on others.
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Catholics focus on Sacred Scripture as well. On Sunday Mass we have the first reading which is from the Old Testament, then several verses from a Psalm, which is sung, then the Second Reading from the New Testament from one of the letters, and then the priest or deacon reads the Gospel as we all then stand.

The first and second readings are done by proclaimers, men or women. The readings are related and planned in advance for the liturgical year. After the proclamation of the Gospel the priest gives a homily on the theme for that day from the readings. The focus is Jesus and what He is teaching us.
 
swariffin said:
Either he is running out idea for sermon, or being unprepared for the service.
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Or, you know, he could be studying history and the Catholic Church and may be drifting toward conversion… 🤷 There’s really no way to know.
 
Dorothy said:
Catholics focus on Sacred Scripture as well. On Sunday Mass we have the first reading which is from the Old Testament, then several verses from a Psalm, which is sung, then the Second Reading from the New Testament from one of the letters, and then the priest or deacon reads the Gospel as we all then stand.

The first and second readings are done by proclaimers, men or women. The readings are related and planned in advance for the liturgical year. After the proclamation of the Gospel the priest gives a homily on the theme for that day from the readings. The focus is Jesus and what He is teaching us.
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I understand Catholic mass even better than most Catholics I know. My post was in response to the initial query regarding Protestant sermons. It had nothing to do with mass.
 
DElias said:
I understand Catholic mass even better than most Catholics I know. My post was in response to the initial query regarding Protestant sermons. It had nothing to do with mass.
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I wrote this response in haste. The tone is not intended on being snarky. After rereading it, I can see how one may perceive this. At that point, it was too late to edit. My apologies.
 
DElias said:
I wrote this response in haste. The tone is not intended on being snarky. After rereading it, I can see how one may perceive this. At that point, it was too late to edit. My apologies.
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Thank you, and God bless! 🙂

Peace,

Dorothy
 
ESMDHokie77 said:
Hey CAF,

So attending a presbyterian service yesterday (PC USA)… (don’t worry, i went to Saturday Vigil Mass the day before…), I noticed that the minister’s sermon mentioned Catholics/Catholicism/the C.C. more than he mentioned Presbyterianism/Presbyterians/the P.C… He had two references to Prebysterianism when he mentioned two churches he used to be at, and he mentioned Catholicism 4 times.
  • he mentioned Catholic/Protestant relations during the Reformation
  • He mentioned the Catholic deuterocanon. (He of course called it the Apocrypha).
  • He mentioned a Catholic priest who authored some sort of book, I regret I forget the specifics on this one.
  • and He mentioned the late PJPJII.
Is it common for protestants to talk about Catholicism more than their own sect? Let alone double the amount! 😛

Peace,
Phil
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Look at it this way, would it not be impossible to talk about Catholicism more then any sect if you are reading the bible;) Remember who wrote the book. it came from the CC.
 
Tiberius1701 said:
I belonged to the Christian Reformed Church for nearly 25 years and I don’t recall ever, even once, hearing them mention Catholicism, the Pope, the Saints, or anything like that, so, no I would certainly not call it either normal or normative in my experience. They also never mentioned Catholic stuff in the Free Methodist services I attended with my wife prior to our conversions. However, I would probably call that a blessing, since, as G.K. Chesterton said, the next best thing to being close enough to the Catholic Church to love Her is being far enough away not to hate Her. (And since, from what I’ve read of Calvin’s writing, he certainly had a knack for sounding like he hated Her, it was probably good for my soul that we 21st Century Calvinists just ignored Her altogether…)
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Actually you heard it but you just didn’t realize it. St Peter not only a Saint but the first Pope.😉

St Paul and the rest of the Apostles. I am sure they were mentioned. Every single time you read the scripture.😃
 
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