Issues with your child's teacher?

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Schools around her don’t have recess anymore - they need to spend all the time “teaching to the tests”.
 
twosweetgirls said:
So I just came back from volunteering in DD’s class again, and this time witnessed the teacher actually yelling at one student in the hallway, in front of other students going out to recess and in front of another teacher. Not only that, but she repeated her directions–putting books in backpacks and then placing them by outside shoes–perhaps five times. And again today, DD’s class didn’t get recess because “there was just too much to do”, according to the teacher.

What do you think?
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*When you’re there volunteering, is there any way you can help take the kids out for recess? Or are you like helping with lessons and so forth? I wonder if that might help. I would schedule the conference, one on one, and just talk with her, and express your concerns, your insights, suggestions. Something I learned a long time ago, when bringing a problem to someone, always have a resolution. People respond well (typically) when you say…here is the concern I have, here is how I might fix it if I were in your shoes. *
 
twosweetgirls said:
So I just came back from volunteering in DD’s class again, and this time witnessed the teacher actually yelling at one student in the hallway, in front of other students going out to recess and in front of another teacher.
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Unacceptable teacher behavior in more than one way. One, you don’t yell at students. Two, you praise in public and criticize in private as much as possible.
twosweetgirls said:
What do you think?
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Sounds like a teacher in need of some training.

– Mark L. Chance.
 
Is she a young teacher? Sounds like she could use some more experience with classroom management.

I will say, I personally find it very hard to work with the 1st graders. Thats why I taught middle school 😉 But I did agree last year to teach 1st, 2nd and 3rd a supplemental program once a week.

I would say that mass punishment is counterproductive at this point in their development. First recess, even if only 10 mins, is their time to blow off some of that excess energy that could be causing some of the trouble. Secondly, this usually ends up with the students who are causing the trouble being given more power than they need. Its hard enough to keep their attention at that age, and making tally marks isn’t going to cut it.

I would talk to the teacher, I like Mark’s idea. Tell her you are worried that your dd is missing a lot of recess, and seems to be in trouble a lot and ask what you can do to help. If she tells you that its a “mass punishment” then you have your opening to discuss your concerns about that with her.
 
No, she’s not young–I’d say late 40s, maybe. I believe she went back to school to get her teaching degree once her children were grown, though I’m not sure how long ago that was.
 
whatevergirl said:
*When you’re there volunteering, is there any way you can help take the kids out for recess? Or are you like helping with lessons and so forth? *
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No, I’m only there from 2 p.m.-3 p.m., and recess time is typically from 2:10-2:25 or so. The teacher only has me sit at a small table in the hallway to listen to the kids read supplemental readers, even though I’ve offered to read to them as a group from their library books, to help give her a break.
 
twosweetgirls said:
No, I’m only there from 2 p.m.-3 p.m., and recess time is typically from 2:10-2:25 or so. The teacher only has me sit at a small table in the hallway to listen to the kids read supplemental readers, even though I’ve offered to read to them as a group from their library books, to help give her a break.
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*Oh, okay…just thought I’d ask. I think that a parent teacher conf is the right thing to do. It’s not working for you, it’s not a healthy classroom management technique, and she needs some constructive feedback. Hope it works out. *
 
Well, DD just told me on the way home from Faith Formation that she didn’t want to go to school tomorrow. When I asked her why not, she couldn’t verbalize it–“I don’t know, I just don’t want to.” This is a girl who, on the first day of Kindergarten last year, didn’t even bother waving good-bye to me, so excited was she about school.

Plus, I just made the connection tonight that she’s been wanting to sleep with me for the last week and a half or so–didn’t dawn on me until tonight that the stress of her classroom might have something to do with that.

I HATE this.
 
I have been known to yell at a class but never an individual student. Sometimes it takes a shock to get that one second of quiet to get things started. I have some classrooms where students will not even look up from what they are doing when I walk in the room and say: “Let’s get started.” THen again I’ve had a student throw a chair at me before as well who came back from the office after five minutes with a note from an assistant principal that read: “We’re really busy.”
 
twosweetgirls said:
Well, DD just told me on the way home from Faith Formation that she didn’t want to go to school tomorrow. When I asked her why not, she couldn’t verbalize it–“I don’t know, I just don’t want to.” This is a girl who, on the first day of Kindergarten last year, didn’t even bother waving good-bye to me, so excited was she about school.

Plus, I just made the connection tonight that she’s been wanting to sleep with me for the last week and a half or so–didn’t dawn on me until tonight that the stress of her classroom might have something to do with that.

I HATE this.
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When my daughter was in the second grade she started having “problems” at school. She began wetting her pants and coming home from school with food hidden in her clothes and shoes. We took her to a doctor and she checked out dfine. We were called into a conference with the teacher and principal. We were told we had to "do something " about her behavoir. I went and observered her class for several hours. I noticed her teacher was very demanding and strict. We didn’t know what to do. After the Christmas break she didn’t want to go back to school.

At church a woman asked us how she was doing. And we told her. She happened to be a supervisor for all the second grade teachers in the city. She looked into the situtation and it turned out the teacher had a daughter entering college and she was taking her emotions out on the kids. After the supervisor dealt with the problem Kathy was happy to go to the school and her bizzare behavoir stopped. The thing that really upset me was how the principal went along with the teacher’s overbearing ways.

William
 
twosweetgirls said:
Well, DD just told me on the way home from Faith Formation that she didn’t want to go to school tomorrow. When I asked her why not, she couldn’t verbalize it–“I don’t know, I just don’t want to.” This is a girl who, on the first day of Kindergarten last year, didn’t even bother waving good-bye to me, so excited was she about school.

Plus, I just made the connection tonight that she’s been wanting to sleep with me for the last week and a half or so–didn’t dawn on me until tonight that the stress of her classroom might have something to do with that.

I HATE this.
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😦 Please schedule the conference with the teacher. And if it doesn’t change, schedule it with the principal. Prayers for brighter days. :console:
 
Lutheranteach said:
I have been known to yell at a class but never an individual student. Sometimes it takes a shock to get that one second of quiet to get things started. I have some classrooms where students will not even look up from what they are doing when I walk in the room and say: “Let’s get started.”
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I agree.
THen again I’ve had a student throw a chair at me before as well who came back from the office after five minutes with a note from an assistant principal that read: “We’re really busy.”
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In my classroom, that kid would go home straight away. I would just say to him, “You cannot be in my room any more today. You need to go home, right now.” I would document the incident in my day book, including the fact that the administration was not able to deal with the child before his behaviour escalated to the point where he was a danger to others. The safety of the group at large is of the highest priority.

If he were to continue to be defiant, I would probably call the police to have him escorted home. (Unless he were old enough to be charged with disorderly conduct, in which case I’d have them take him to juvenile lock-up to face a charge of threatening with a deadly weapon.)

I would leave it to him, to explain it to his parents and neighbors.
 
Oh yeah my son’s first grade teacher, and his second grade teacher…the first one failed him and said she couldn’t stand him…we didn’t know my son was ADD/ADHD, but I was always patient with him his teacher’s would scream at him all the time…all the time! She didn’t even ask me what my son liked so she could try to make his interest in school work does it seem unfair that only one child needed this? NO because I learned there were a few others whom needed this kind of help and attention as well! The second 1st grade teacher he had she loved him and said he was a brilliant boy just misunderstood whom needed a lot of attention and affection, she would worry about him and asked me for things that he liked and incorporated them in the class he did well that year… Then his second grade teacher came along and he hated her…He told me the first day of school he didn’t like his teacher…I asked why he said she was very mean and always yelled…I didn’t believe him until I kept dropping by unanounced and that woman would scream at all the children! None of the children were spoken to, they were yelled at! And she would ask me things like “I don’t know what to do with your son he refuses to do his work and refuses to participate!” I once told her if she would stop screaming at him maybe he’d want to listen to her and do what she asks of him…She just shrugged her shoulders…Then the principal was brought in and then I took my son to get diagnosed by a doctor then the school was terrified and actually tried to help him but by then was the end of the school year…

Now his 3rd grade teacher wasn’t informed on his diagnostic…And now she knows I have informed her, she’s helping him out a lot more with more patience. I had to tell her because she wants to hold him back! She didn’t know that he had that diagnostic and that she was going to try and be more patient with him…He’s attending a tutor when available weds and thursd…I am trying everything to help my son develop normally and be a normal kid without limitations but when it comes to books and reading and math and school education he’s just not interested…Lately he’s been doing well, not getting into trouble and turning in his school work…Maybe now he will continue doing better because now he has a more patient teacher…with him…All we needed was a little chat with his teacher and I did just that…

Sometimes that’s all a teacher needs…Some teacher’s just don’t have the patience others do once they learn a little more about the situations…Others feel that all children need to be treated exactly the same and that is sometimes not the case. Some teachers believe that it’s only fair for all students to be punished when one does something wrong…

In my 1st grader’s class this year his teacher also punishes everyone, I have spoken with her about this because my son feels it’s unfair, I have asked her if it’s ok for him to let her know when the other children are talking to him…Since she told me those are her rules I told my son that whenever the other children are talking or trying to talk to him for him to put his fingers up by his mouth as a sign of “quiet time,” she has caught him doing this several times and is impressed by him…she says it actually makes the other children want to be quiet…so far this week he hasn’t gotten punished with his class…🤷
 
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