It takes one to know one

[cho_pilo]

Taken from Atheism vs Science thread:

We must have a basis for our faith. Even Kierkegaard has his reasons (his leap into the absurd is not really a blind leap).

And a rejection has to be based on something, on some other beliefs and values than one does hold.

So in the case of rejecting belief in God, what were the beliefs and values that guided your rejection?

Any thoughts?

 

[steveb1]

Many atheists will put compassion at the top of the list. The universe is not compassionate to living beings. By implication, neither is the purported creator of the universe. An all-powerful god who botched the creation and who continues to refuse to end suffering means that the universe is in the hands of a cruel incompetant. Many people find it easier to deny God’s existence than to believe in an all-powerful, but mean and clumsy, deity.

 

[Earnest_Bunbury]

Many atheists will put compassion at the top of the list. The universe is not compassionate to living beings. By implication, neither is the purported creator of the universe. An all-powerful god who botched the creation and who continues to refuse to end suffering means that the universe is in the hands of a cruel incompetant. Many people find it easier to deny God’s existence than to believe in an all-powerful, but mean and clumsy, deity.

We would say that is a case of a wrong assertion based on a lack of study as there are many books and Church documents that offer a loving God open to reason as the cause of creation by the effects of that creation and this simplistic view is the result of prior beliefs that cause this lack of study. We Christians would say that with intellectual honesty and desire to know the truth, one could come to a natural knowledge of God’s Nature and thus be open to accept His movements toward Grace which is life in union with God.

In total, there are as many reasons for rejection of belief as there are people. The powers of the soul are intellect, will, and passion. Each has levels effecting it from our fallen nature and affecting it from cultural or personal influences. God Himself has said that He resists the proud, not by spite, but by the necessity of respect to our free-will. It is the dignity of our free-will that gives us the ability to turn from Him in arrogance and to prefer untruth.

 

[Bohm_Bawerk]

So in the case of rejecting belief in God, what were the beliefs and values that guided your rejection?

Any thoughts?

For me personally, I prayed and prayed and nothing changed and nothing happened (although there were two occasions where I received a rose from St. Therese…one of the preceding petitions did not come to fruition and another is still pending). It got to a stage where I thought, I need to stop praying and I have to take matters into my own hands lest I wait for all eternity.

However, I still attend Mass, and still try my best on frequenting Confession (I want to attend another one soon, but it’s a little bit difficult to confess your sins around here). I haven’t received the Eucharist because I’ve been in a state of mortal sin. But when it comes to the nature of prayer, I am a very **huge ** skeptic. I’m a go-getter now , and only until God reveals Himself to me more, I will remain this way .

Thank you,
Eugen von Böhm-Bawerk

 

[mark_avery]

I would also add,that if you search the bible you will find a specific passage in the ot and one in the new testament all be it,possibly a bit more vague.That to find the father, is a very difficult task!
But as a positive to that, is that if you pursue,like the new testament nuance to the old testaments equivalent,you will be very much rewarded.
(so how much are you willing to give,or try,for he knows your self better than you).