Jesus from LDS point of view

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CourtingTex said:
It is not the view of the doctrine of the church
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At this point in time, according to what I can ascertain, there is no official view of the LDS church as to whether or not Jesus was married.

They certainly don’t officially come out and say, “Jesus was single”
 
Marie5890 said:
At this point in time, according to what I can ascertain, there is no official view of the LDS church as to whether or not Jesus was married.

They certainly don’t officially come out and say, “Jesus was single”
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Correct.

My study of our doctrine has not found that he ever was married.
 
Marie5890 said:
At this point in time, according to what I can ascertain, there is no official view of the LDS church as to whether or not Jesus was married.

They certainly don’t officially come out and say, “Jesus was single”
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I was told specifically, clearly, definitely, in the 1960s, that the Church DOES believe Jesus was married, without doubt. Two of his wives were Mary and Martha - one who sat with him while the other “did the dishes.” I don’t recall if I were told who the third one was.

Darwin was right. Evolution is true. The Mormon Church is living evidence. Everything changes, but hardly anything changes as much as Mormon doctrines. The Church’s doctrines have become almost common place. In another two or three decades the Mormon Church will be indistinguishable from the Reorganized Church of Jesus Christ / Community of Christ. Then I wonder where “the Spirit” will guide Mormon seekers for truth.
 
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I was told specifically, clearly, definitely, in the 1960s, that the Church DOES believe Jesus was married, without doubt. Two of his wives were Mary and Martha - one who sat with him while the other “did the dishes.” I don’t recall if I were told who the third one was.

Darwin was right. Evolution is true. The Mormon Church is living evidence. Everything changes, but hardly anything changes as much as Mormon doctrines. The Church’s doctrines have become almost common place. In another two or three decades the Mormon Church will be indistinguishable from the Reorganized Church of Jesus Christ / Community of Christ. Then I wonder where “the Spirit” will guide Mormon seekers for truth.
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The Community of Christ and my church are separate ---- our doctrine is not the same. If the Community of Christ changes something in the doctrine ----- it has not connection to my church at all so I appreciate you folks put all together to note differentt between both churches.
 
CourtingTex said:
The Community of Christ and my church are separate ---- our doctrine is not the same. If the Community of Christ changes something in the doctrine ----- it has not connection to my church at all so I appreciate you folks put all together to note differentt between both churches.
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Could you not understand my post!? Of course the two churches are different. If they were not, I could not have said what I said. They are different. However, as I proposed in my post, the Mormon Church is fast approaching the Community of Christ, inasmuch as the Community of Christ has rejected the supernaturality of the Book of Mormon, and the Mormon Church is fast headed that way as more and more doctrines (of a few decades duration) that were once “distinctives” (old Mormon term) are abandoned, in favor of doctrines more in line with traditional (thousands of years old) Christian beliefs. The CoC already is very traditional in its teachings and missions.

I had written, “In another two or three decades the Mormon Church will be indistinguishable from the Reorganized Church of Jesus Christ / Community of Christ.” - Because “Everything changes, but hardly anything changes as much as Mormon doctrines. The Church’s doctrines have become almost common place.”

And remember, my post was addressing the issue of Jesus being married. I was told with utmost clarity and conviction that Jesus was married - plural wives (he couldn’t have gotten into the Celestial Kingdom otherwise!) - and today we are told “nobody knows” whether Jesus were married or not. In ten years, the doctrine will be, “Jesus definitely was not married.” Change, change, change, followed by denial, denial, denial. At least the Community of Christ admits they changed their doctrines. Your Mormon leadership should have the guts to do the same.
 
one LDS error which is quite clear is their teaching that men and women in heaven will be married. that teaching is a direct contradiction of our Lord’s teaching that in heaven there is no giving or taking in marriage. Mk: 12:25 & Mt: 22:30.
 
CourtingTex said:
Speaking for myself only (I recommend making contact with church headquarters for a church response) that if individual believe this notation that Jesus was married — those individual members believe such. If those have a “cafeteria” approach, that those folks only.

It is not the view of the doctrine of the church
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I completely agree with you. That is exactly my point. It is not the view of the church. TODAY! It was in the past, it may be in the future. There is no way to tell what Mormon doctrine will be tomorrow because there are absolutely no constraints on church leadership to ensure consistency, coherence, harmony with other doctrines, nor to prevent endless contradictions.
 
CourtingTex said:
Correct.

My study of our doctrine has not found that he ever was married.
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But what good would study do, since even your leaders teach their own opinions and make mistakes? Doctrine is actually whatever the Holy Ghost tells you it is.

Orson Hyde:

“Now there was actually a marriage; and if Jesus was not the bridegroom on that occasion, please tell who was. If any man can show this, and prove that it was not the Savior of the world, then I will acknowledge I am in error. We say it was Jesus Christ who was married, to be brought into the relation whereby he could see his seed, before he was crucified”

“I discover that some of the Eastern papers represent me as a great blasphemer, because I said, in my lecture on Marriage, at our last Conference, that Jesus Christ was married at Cana of Galilee, that Mary, Martha, and others were his wives, and that he begat children.”

Orson Pratt:

“We have now clearly shown that God, the Father had a plurality of wives, one or more being in eternity, by whom He begat our spirits as well as the spirit of Jesus His First Born… We have also proved most clearly that the Son followed the example of his Father, and became the great Bridegroom to whom kings’ daughters and many honorable Wives to be married.”

From the official church manual, Teachings of the Living Prophets:
“Prophets have the right to personal opinions. Not every word they speak should be thought of as an official interpretation or pronouncement. However, their discourses to the Saints, and their official writings should be considered products of their official prophetic calling and should be heeded”
 
I have a different take.

I think the LDS believe that marriage causes spiritual growth and minimizes sin, thus they push marriage really hard on their members.

In decades years past the Catholic church culture used to also push the benefits of marriage as a very strong expectation. I’d be curious if people know the rationale used at the time to push this sacrament as a virtual requirement.
 
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Yes, Mormons believe that Jesus was married. It’s commonly believed that he is also a polygamist. And yes, you have to be married in the New and Everlasting Covenant in order to become a god, just as Jesus did.
 
I was Mormon for 57 years and I could write a book on how many times I heard it speculated that Jesus was married.
 
Thank you for your honesty. While I know LDS thought is ever changing and very fluid I have always wondered how the day to day LDS deal with the inconsistency of their doctrine.
 
Mormons have this proverbial “shelf” where they place these hard questions rather than face them. You know how they say, “ignorance is bliss?” Avoiding these questions is how most of them deal with it. I did the same.
 
I was raised in a fundamentalist group and not in the mainstream LDS church (we thought we were the main stream and all those other people were sadly deluded), but we were taught that Jesus practiced plural marriage and so was exalted. The mainstream LDS church doesn’t have a doctrine on whether Jesus was married, so it’s sort of up to individual belief. It depends on what group of Mormons you’re dealing with, basically.
 
Over the course of many years and many discussions, I would say the general belief among Mormons is that Jesus was a polygamist.
 
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