Jesus in Quran and Jesus in Trinity?

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planten said:
C-Z, we Muslims do not believe in Trinity. But we believe in Crucifixion. Jesus was tried on the cross. he however did not die on the cross. When brought down, he was alive. He rested in the tomb and recovered and went away.
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Who does that pronoun (WE) refer to? I know for sure that most Muslims deny Jesus’ crucifixion altogether on the basis of two verses in the Koran. Mainstream and traditional Islam does not endorse your views about Jesus’ passion, but considers them heretical.
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planten said:
There is no need of any original sin and no need to kill Jesus on the cross because that is a cursed type of death. Quran denies the cursed death for Jesus. Jesus was told by Allah before going on the cross. That was when he was praying heavily in the garden before his arrest that he will not die a cursed death on the cross. But he will die a natual death on the bed in complete peace.
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Why the need to let people crucify Jesus then? Why the need to deceive people? Why the need to make Jesus suffer for nothing???

I am asking you for the 1000th time to cite evidence from the NT to prove your arguments. If you cannot, this means your approach to this discussion has not met the notion of honesty yet.
planten said:
That is what happened to Jesus. Please do not say that all Muslims deny the crucifixion. Thanks. The proof of Jesus being helped by God (he had a God to whom he was praying) is also found in the bible where it is written that while he was praying to avoid the cup, an angel visited him and strenghened him, What is the use of the angel if it is not to save him ?
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We are not talking about Muslims actually, but about their Koran that overtly denies BOTH Jesus’ crucifixion and death. There is not a single verse in your scripture to support your allegations.

The narrative in Luke does not say either implicitly or explicitly that the angel saved Jesus. You are making up stories to justify your personal interpretation.
 
Dear Brother Sam & InJesus,

I think before we discuss about Trinity with Planten, it is better for Planten to explain the fact that there are 2 uncreated and eternal beings in Islam which is God and Quran. And yet, these 2 Gods still equal to one God. Some other even suggest the third eternal and uncreated, which is the Sunnah.
 
planten said:
Similary some one explained Trinity as an egg. That is the white, yellow and the shell.
Another one explained it as tea. There 1. Milk 2. Sugar 3. tea leaves.

That seemed to be a joke. Because I knew that anothe rimportant part was missing that was water in the tea pot.
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I personally don’t think I’ve ever heard a better explanation of the Trinity than the following -

americancatholictruthsociety.com/sheen/11TheBlessedTrinity.mp3
 
planten said:
C-Z, we Muslims do not believe in Trinity. But we believe in Crucifixion. Jesus was tried on the cross. he however did not die on the cross. When brought down, he was alive. He rested in the tomb and recovered and went away.

There is no need of any original sin and no need to kill Jesus on the cross because that is a cursed type of death. Quran denies the cursed death for Jesus. Jesus was told by Allah before going on the cross. That was when he was praying heavily in the garden before his arrest that he will not die a cursed death on the cross. But he will die a natual death on the bed in complete peace.

That is what happened to Jesus. Please do not say that all Muslims deny the crucifixion. Thanks. The proof of Jesus being helped by God (he had a God to whom he was praying) is also found in the bible where it is written that while he was praying to avoid the cup, an angel visited him and strenghened him, What is the use of the angel if it is not to save him ?
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Planten, it’s not related with what I asked about Trinity. Why did you change the subject??
 
inJESUS said:
Planten, kindly open another thread with these questions and i will personally adress them all. This thread is about the Trinity.
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Yes, Planten you supposed to open another thread. I would like to know about your questions and InJesus answer because I always can learn more.
 
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