Jesus' Jewish lineage ... scriptural support for, beyond Matthew's account

[brb3]

Some scholars today teach Jesus wasn’t from Tribe of Judah. They believe Matthew fabricated the geneological facts, in order to make the case that Jesus was legitimately qualified to be their Messiah.

They point to the fact that the 1st century Jewish priesthood [and modern Jews] believed Jesus not to be Judean … rather, a Nazarean/Galilean, who chose his Apostles from that area as well. And, on this basis they rejected him as the promised Christ from tribe of Judah.

Could Jesus not of easily proven them wrong ? Why did he not do so, or did he ?

 

[Cachonga]

First of all, the genology of Jesus is also found in the Gospel of Luke (it’s different from Matthew, but both show Jesus is from the tribe of Judah). Second, when do we find the earliest documentation of any questions about His geneology? I’m not aware of any such questions before “modern” times. I would suggest that any “modern” scholar that would raise such a question is being anachronistic in their study of history.

As far as the differences in the geneologies in Matthew and Luke, there is an early commentary (3rd or 4th century) that indicates the geneology found in Matthew is actually that of Mary, which would mean Luke contains the lineage of Joseph.

 

[brb3]

when do we find the earliest documentation of any questions about His geneology? I’m not aware of any such questions before “modern” times.

The religious ‘Temple elite’ accused Jesus in scriptures of not being of Judean birth … but, rather from Nazareth, an a Galilean.

Curious why Jesus didn’t take that opportunity to support his birthright in the Tribe of Judah, and thus to King David.

 

[Glorthac]

Some scholars today teach Jesus wasn’t from Tribe of Judah. They believe Matthew fabricated the geneological facts, in order to make the case that Jesus was legitimately qualified to be their Messiah.

They point to the fact that the 1st century Jewish priesthood [and modern Jews] believed Jesus not to be Judean … rather, a Nazarean/Galilean, who chose his Apostles from that area as well. And, on this basis they rejected him as the promised Christ from tribe of Judah.

Could Jesus not of easily proven them wrong ? Why did he not do so, or did he ?

Watch out for those who say Jesus was not a Jew, but a Galilean. That was and still is the standard Nazi belief. Look into Positive Christianity, the church Adolf Hitler tried to establish.

The problem with these modern ‘scholars’ arguments is they’re denying Jesus was a Jew because of where He lived most of His life, Nazareth of Galilee (not part of Judaea).

But Jesus is a Jew because He is racially a Jew, not based on where He lived.

 

[brb3]

The problem with these modern ‘scholars’ arguments is they’re denying Jesus was a Jew because of where He lived most of His life, Nazareth of Galilee (not part of Judaea).

But Jesus is a Jew because He is racially a Jew, not based on where He lived.

Except, the Jews defined themselves by where they were born. Ex: Saul of Tarsus, who claimed Roman citizenship on basis of birthright. Same for us today, if born in USA.

Gospels say Jesus of Nazareth … where he lived, not his Birth Place.

But, finally … Christ spoke of himself as SON OF MAN.
Thus, Son of Joseph & Mary, Son of David, Son of Adam … who was Son of God.

 

[Glorthac]

Yea, they took a topographical surname back then, but you can’t honestly say the Jewish captives born during the days of the Babylonian exile weren’t Jewish, can you?

Or the Jews during the days of Antiochus Epiphanes? Were the Jews happy Selucids? I don’t think so, that’s why Mattathias Macabeus rebelled.

Or all the Jews born during the Diaspora, were there no Jews until Israel was restored in the 1940’s? You shoulda told Hitler that, 400,000 people would have been spared.

I sorta agree with you that the Jews took their surnames by their birthplace or place where they lived, but they defined their identity by their Jewishness, regardless of where they were born or who ruled over them.

To say Jesus isn’t a Jew because He lived in Galilee appears to me to be a denial of common sense. You know?

Does that help?