John 21:11 Did you ever wonder why 153 fish?

[love4mary]

:hypno: all these numbers and equations and and and…

For me its easy…153 fish=Everyone from all lands.

Still wondering about that dog though

 

[Fidelis]

Still wondering about that dog though

Fr. Joseph Fitzmeyer, who prepared the translation of the bool of Tobit for the NAB, had this to say:

For centuries, Catholics, for whom the Book of Tobit is canonical (i.e., part of their Bible), have been reading the charming story of Tobit and his son Tobiah in the Latin Vulgate or in vernacular Bibles based on the Vulgate. St. Jerome, who produced the Vulgate in the late fourth century a.d., was not really interested in translating Tobit but was pressured by two bishops to do so. Eventually he acquiesced and found a Jew who could read the Aramaic story and translate it into Hebrew, which Jerome then rendered into Latin as part of the Vulgate. He boasted in a letter that he devoted “one day’s work” to it.

In the story, Tobit’s dog went along on a trip to Rages with the young Tobiah and the angel Raphael. As they returned to Nineveh, the dog ran ahead, bringing the news of their return and “showed his joy by fawning and wagging his tail” (blandimento suae caudae gaudebat [11:9] ). So runs the story in the Douay-Rheims Catholic Bible, based on the Vulgate. Alas, that amusing detail is not found in the earlier versions of the story used in the Bibles that Jerome’s edition replaced. Where could Jerome have gotten it?..

So where did Jerome get that detail about the dog wagging its tail? We may never know. The Aramaic text he had translated is not known to us; perhaps the wagging tail was a simple stylistic flourish that some writer or translator felt was necessary at that point.
companysj.com/v141/written.html

 

[Gottle_of_Geer]

Hmm . . . How should I interpret that “666” is also?

Mathermatically, perhaps ?​

 

[benedictgal]

Another interesting thing about this scene:

When was the last time that we see a “charcoal fire” in John’s Gospel?

Peter was denying Christ three times…

Now, in front of this charcoal fire, Jesus is asking Peter to confirm that he loves Jesus three times…

My Parochial Vicar made that same point last week during our diocesan NT class. Where is Sour Lake?

 

[NotWorthy]

My Parochial Vicar made that same point last week during our diocesan NT class. Where is Sour Lake?

Right next to Smelly Rock. Why do you ask?

Seriously, it’s just north of Beaumont, which is 90 miles east of Houston and 30 miles west of Lousiana.

BTW, you’re Parochial Vicar is obviously a very smart person!!!

 

[prem]

My Parochial Vicar made that same point last week during our diocesan NT class. Where is Sour Lake?

“God By A Charcoal Fire”=153
Jesus was standing on the shore; … “standing + shore”=153
The 7 Disciples received “help to catch fish” (=153)
The 7 Disciples experienced a sign; “sign experience”=153
The sign took place “at dawn” (=63); “sixty-three”=153
“Net For The Fish”=153

 

[_A]

You must have heard the same homily I just heard. Interesting, isn’t it? I think the 153 referred to the number of known species of fish back then, not today.

That makes a little more sense (maybe) I just got from Yahoo answers…
A fish is a water-dwelling vertebrate with gills that doesn’t change form, as amphibians do, throughout its life. Most are cold-blooded, though some (such as some species of tuna and shark) are warm-blooded. There are over 29,000 species of fish, making them the most diverse group of vertebrates. Taxonomically, fish are a paraphyletic group whose exact relationships are much debated; a common division is into the jawless fish (class Agnatha, 75 species including lampreys and hagfish), the cartilaginous fish (class Chondrichthyes, 800 species including sharks and rays), with the remainder classed as bony fish (class Osteichthyes).

* 1 year ago

Source(s):

Wikipedia

 

[sherwood]

Fishermen do not count fish, they weigh or fill up a container.
It is the remarkable size of the fish that makes them count them, every one is good, every one valuable.
So it is with those who trust The lord Jesus Christ, all saved by his sacrifice, all conformed to his image by the Spirit of God, every one of equal value to God, all caught by the gospel given to men, through the apostles, by the scriptures.
Keith

 

[brb3]

Same number 153 pops up! But this time in the thousands!
Boy God is Good!

Also Omniscient

 

[edward_george]

Another interesting thing about this scene:

When was the last time that we see a “charcoal fire” in John’s Gospel?

Peter was denying Christ three times…

Now, in front of this charcoal fire, Jesus is asking Peter to confirm that he loves Jesus three times…

Archbishop Sheen talks about this in his rather amazing book “The Priest is Not His Own”

-ACEGC

 

[rcjones]

Peter was not yet reconciled with Jesus. He was fishing in the dark, naked and on the left side of the boat… all not good signs.

Jesus asks if they have meat, which was an invitation to a meat offering, which is a fellowship offering.

Jesus always served bread and fish. The bread is his body, on the cross. And since “man does not live by bread alone”, the fish represent “every word which proceeds from the mouth of God.”

Peter was instructed to feed the sheep. What was he to feed them? Jesus had Peter alone pull the 153 fish to shore, when all the other disciples together couldn’t handle the net. Peter was to feed the sheep “every word which proceeds from the mouth of God”.

So why 153? It is a fellowship meal. 144 is for the dual-natured bride of Israel and the church. The remaining 9 are for the fellowship of the persons of the Godhead with each other. 144 + 3x3 = 153

This was the third appearance of Jesus after the resurrection to the disciples. The first one he was heard, the second he was seen (examined his scars), and the third one he walked with Peter down the beach. This is the same hearing, seeing walking theme we see so often.