John 3:16 / Being "saved" by believing

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Can someone help me explain the Catholic stance on heaven. I had a conversation with a Christian who asked if I knew if I was going to heaven. I may not have answered correctly from a Catholic standpoint but I said “I hope so, but that’s for God to decide”. She said it wasn’t a matter of that - God had already said in John 3:16 that if I “believe”, I WILL go to heaven and be judged separately later. Can someone help me answer intelligently from a Catholic perspective.
 
You can have a certain moral certainty about your eternal fate, but unless your friend is claiming infallibility, then they have only such a certainty as well. You are absolutely right that God is the judge. Even St. Paul was not absolutely certain of his salvation. “I am not aware of anything against myself, but I am not thereby justified. It is the Lord who judges me” (1 Cor. 4:4)Catholic.com has a tract on the subject here. :o
 
Can someone help me explain the Catholic stance on heaven. I had a conversation with a Christian who asked if I knew if I was going to heaven. I may not have answered correctly from a Catholic standpoint but I said “I hope so, but that’s for God to decide”. She said it wasn’t a matter of that - God had already said in John 3:16 that if I “believe”, I WILL go to heaven and be judged separately later. Can someone help me answer intelligently from a Catholic perspective.
Your answer seems correct.

As the Bible says, I am already saved (Rom. 8:24, Eph. 2:5-8), but I’m also being saved (1 Cor. 1:8, 2 Cor. 2:15, Phil. 2:12), and I have the hope that I will be saved (Rom. 5:9-10, 1 Cor. 3:12-15). Like the apostle Paul, I am working out my salvation in fear and trembling (Phil. 2:12), with hopeful confidence in the promises of Christ (Rom. 5:2, 2 Tim. 2:11-13).

catholic.com/quickquestions/how-should-a-catholic-reply-to-the-question-have-you-been-saved
 
Thank you everyone for your help. This is great and I will study these and have answers ready next time I see her 🙂
 
As a “temporary protestant” I was fond of claiming the Catholic Church taught the “different gospel” Paul referred to. By the grace of God, I now know better.

The simple, easy to explain message of evangelical witness appealed to me. I thought, “That makes sense- believe and get saved. The rest is just details…” I could blab on and on but allow me to share two things that led me back home.

First, as you hang out in evangelical circles (God bless them!), you inevitably encounter folks who “backslide,” or seem to be living in sin, uninterested in God and/or unrepentant. This of course is a problem for someone who teaches instant regeneration and “once saved-always saved.” Some will explain it by saying even a “saved” person can slip into serious sin and need correction. Others will take the more dramatic stance that the struggling person simply was not “saved” to begin with. Either case is a problem. If we can slip into serious sin after being born again and “saved,” what to we do next? With the second approach, it leaves us with the shocking possibility that people are walking around believing they are saved when they are actually headed to hell! As I said, either case is really not a great answer. These situations illuminate holes in protestant theology and folks who are willing to look, will see them everywhere.

The second factor (among many) that led me home was in finally reading the early church fathers, I learned that the church had always taught real presence, confession of sins, authority of bishops, etc. I saw that it was not the Catholic Church that invented new doctrines but the evangelicals! In 1560, Martin Luther believed we could lose our salvation, the bread is truly the body of our Lord and baptism is desired for children. He also encouraged honoring Mary. If you look at most protestant churches today, they have thrown out the real presence, confession of sin, prayers to the saints (including Mary), and more.

I realized the Catholic Church had not changed- it was the evangelicals who had written their own theology and started more and more churches.

It’s a big topic. But in my opinion, the most effective thing one can do is to lovingly suggest the protestant friend read the early church fathers. Thanks to some recent books, they don’t have to dig through thousands of documents in Latin or Greek themselves! They can buy one or two books and read the topics in which they are interested. Lots of great resources around here!

Pray about it.

God bless you!
 
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