Kabbalah Hidden secretes of Old Testament

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Hello im interested in the Jewish study of jewish mysticism I don’t know is it against the faith or not it professes to give deeper understanding the Old Testament the torah please help is it ok to study it please supply information.
 
Even from the perspective of Judaism, I must caution you despite your eagerness to study Kabbalah. The reason why is that the study of Kabbalah MUST be preceded by a thorough grounding in the Torah, which itself takes years of study. Kabbalah is used by some Orthodox Jews, in particular, to broaden their understanding of the Torah but only AFTER years of Torah study. Otherwise, you may very well misinterpret or distort the hidden meanings of Kabbalah, which is essentially what novices tend to do.
 
I’m hoping to become a Franciscan in Jerusalem maybe next year and learn Hebrew and Italian myself they speak Italian in the friary In Jerusalem !

I’m very interested in the deeper meaning of the Bible and the detail of the soul.

Why don’t Catholics take on board this teaching of the soul? Only Christian
Mystics understood it well I feel the church does not stand with teaching any longer even the catholic schools in Ireland only have one class a week on religion and don’t teach the Bible how embarrassing is that.

Professing to be a country of Catholics in Ireland yet no area that teaches that Bible a example in Israel they study Torah for hours every day and have teachers on the Torah !
 
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meltzerboy2 said:
but only AFTER years of Torah study
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Indeed. Most Jews stay away from Kabbalah, and the few that are interested in it are Torah scholars with years / decades of study.

Far better to become an expert in one of the Gospel accounts for you.

Also, I would suggest you begin studying the writings of Fr. Bargil Pixner, OSB. He would be right up your alley with your love of the Holy Land.

Deacon Christopher
 
Kabbalah is Jewish mysticism, forbidden by Torah itself. Stick with Torah and you’ll be fine.
 
Were does it say in the Torah Kabbalah is forbidden when Kabbalah describes Torah
 
John given you are hoping to become a Franciscan Monk next year, a religious, one of the most important virtues will be obedience to your superiors.

Your interests and wants and desires will be superseded by those of religious life.
Again, have you been in contact with the Franciscan Monastery you would like to join? I would imagine by now you are in contact and actively interacting with their Vocations Director. This discussion is best kept for them.
 
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I’m seriously struggling with my desires my emotions I feel are in charge of me and not my intellect so the sooner I get into a order the better I can practice obediance and discipline
 
John121 said:
I’m seriously struggling with my desires my emotions I feel are in charge of me and not my intellect so the sooner I get into a order the better I can practice obediance and discipline
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It doesn’t work like that. Get in touch with the Franciscans and start the discernment process.
 
Does your parish have a bible study? I will pray for your vocation. I will ask God to reveal His will and show you the path.
 
I realize that you are asking from a Catholic perspective; in your letter to me, it seemed you were boarding on becoming Jewish. My mistake.

If you were told that Kabbalah is black magic, commercial none sense, or anti-Torah, what can I say? That’s the wrong message. Kabbalah promotes things which are positive paths in Torah, not negative ones. The study of Kabbalah adds depth to our Torah, not take away from it.

The mingah is that one needs to be over 40; this isn’t so. One does need years of Torah study, but really, it can be any age, any time, as long as you have a teacher with you - don’t do it alone, Rav Akiva warned so, and if you think I’m wrong, his pupil, Rashbi, wrote most of Zohar.

So is Kabbalah dangerous? If you plan on staying a Catholic, stay away from it; it’s not your tradition and will only confuse you. If you someday contemplate the notion of converting to Judaism, what can I say? Would I tell you not to marry the love of your life?
 
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the sooner I get into a order the better I can practice obediance and discipline
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I think it’s the other way around. First, the obedience and discipline. Then, once you’ve got that problem solved, it’ll be time to start thinking about joining an order.
 
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