Kaddish

[7_Sorrows]

7sorrows, I can’t tell your gender, but it is much easier for a woman to convert. As a grown man I was terrified at the idea of circumcision. But as a woman all that would be required for you to do is immerse yourself in a mikveh, lucky you!

The local temple is also partly conservative and part Reform too. The nearest Orthodox synagogue is 300 miles away in El Paso. I will check into aish.com.

no, I can understand your point! I didn’t know they required that for male converts. I can understand your fear. I am female by the way so that never even was something I thought about.

 

[SyroMalankara]

This prayer is part of the Syriac canonical hours, prayed by Syriac, Malankara, and I think Maronites, but also used during the incensing within the funeral:

Praise be to You O God, who gives life to the dead. Praise be to You O God, who grants resurrection to the entombed. We praise You and glorify Your Father who did send you and the Holy Spirit. Barekhmor.

O Lord, one of Trinity, who by Your own will stayed in the tomb for three days, give resurrection to our departed ones, for they were saved by Your precious blood. Moryo rahem alay noo adarayn.

O merciful Lord, renew Your creation on the day of resurrection.

O Lord, grant rest and comfort to our beloved departed ones who have lived and died with hope in You.

O Lord grant rest to our faithful departed in the bosom of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.

May the souls and bodies together cry aloud and say: glory be to the one who has come and is to come to resurrect the departed. Amen.

Also, this may be of interest: thehiddenpearl.org/

 

[Bagbabe53]

I remember reading that Cardinal Leger, the archbishop of Paris years ago was a convert from Judaism. He converted as a university student, became a priest, and rose up to high levels in the clergy. When his father died, the pope had no problem with the cardinal visiting a synagogue every day in Paris to recite Kaddish in the Jewish tradition.

 

[malphono]

I remember reading that Cardinal Leger, the archbishop of Paris years ago was a convert from Judaism. He converted as a university student, became a priest, and rose up to high levels in the clergy. When his father died, the pope had no problem with the cardinal visiting a synagogue every day in Paris to recite Kaddish in the Jewish tradition.

Just a small note: I believe the reference is to Jean-Marie Lustiger who served as Bishop of Orléans (1979-1981) and then as Archbishop of Paris (1981-2005). Paul-Émile Léger was not a convert and served as Archbishop of Montréal from 1950 until his (early) retirement in 1968.

 

[Bagbabe53]

You’re right! Sorry for the error. I knew the story but got the names and places wrong.

 

[jfoges]

I’m a little confused by this thread. Although it’s often called “The Mourners Kaddish’ (or Qaddish) and is prayed at funerals and memorials, it isn’t really a “funeral” prayer at all. The"Burial Kaddish” is a little different and actually does reference death and resurrection. A decent explanation can be found here.

The Kaddish prayer is something that is said by people in mourning or “observing a yarzheit” for a family member. However, the text of the prayer is not about death or dying, it is just about praising God. The Kaddish is recited by Jews in almost every prayer service, not just at funerals or memorials. At the synagogue services I have been to, the kaddish is recited several times and at several points only the people who are in mourning will stand up and recite it.