Kennedy Funeral (The Mass Itself)

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I didn’t know we had a liturgy that anyone can “plan.” :)Certainly the EF is never referred to as being planned. It’s right there in the Missal. You can, however, plan some of the music.
Funeral Liturgies, like the Nuptial Mass (and, in some cases a Quince Anos celebration) do have some latitude in planning. There are a plethora of readings to choose from in the Lectionary for weddings and funerals. Even in a Mass marking the installation of a bishop and (in our case) the erection of a new diocese, there are choices in the readings as well as in the music. Special diocesan liturgies (Red Mass for lawyers, for example) do require some special planning since we look through the approved texts in the lectionary to see which reading fits the circumstance well.

The readings in the case of the Kennedy Funeral Mass were, at least, chosen from the texts commonly used for funerals. However, the General Intercessions were terrible. They should have stuck with the prayers the Rite provides and not use these as a means of promoting a political agenda. The prayers should be about imploring God’s mercy on the deceased, not sanctifying and promoting an agenda that, in some cases, runs contrary to the Church.
 
Funeral Liturgies, like the Nuptial Mass (and, in some cases a Quince Anos celebration) do have some latitude in planning.
Then perhaps there was TOO much planning. How many family members were there? 🙂
 
I do believe there is need to be concerned about abuses of the liturgy as well as what impression this very public funeral would have on people since we are all aware of the pro-abortion position of Senator Ted Kennedy and how that is at odds with the teachings of the Catholic Church. But as a mother who worries and prays for the conversion of my own children, I choose to be more concerned with the salvation of souls, and in this case, the soul of Edward Kennedy. I came across an exerpt of “A Time To Remember” by Rose Fitzgerald Kennedy which I posted on another thread in the politics2009 forum, but I think that Rose Kennedy should be remembered at her son’s funeral Mass, too. The link I am posting is the conclusion of her book. She tells of the importance of faith to live by and of trying to foster that faith in her children and grandchildren.
robtshepherd.tripod.com/rose-kennedy.html
 
I think Cardinal O’Malley’s note,
Code:
 [cardinalseansblog.org/2009/09/02/on-senator-kennedys-funeral/](http://www.cardinalseansblog.org/2009/09/02/on-senator-kennedys-funeral/)
summarizes the Mass quite nicely.
 
One of my former parish priests was actually one of the priests serving at the funeral. It was kinda cool to see him on TV. I saw him shaking hands with president Obama and I was like…“Woah…I know that guy!!”
 
One of my former parish priests was actually one of the priests serving at the funeral. It was kinda cool to see him on TV. I saw him shaking hands with president Obama and I was like…“Woah…I know that guy!!”
I saw a priest? Who started to cross himself and stopped suddenly right at the get go.
He seemed to have suddenly stopped for some reason.
Did anyone else see it?
Perhaps I should get it posted here if I can try to.
I just wonder why he made the gesture to cross himself, and then suddenly stopped.:confused:
 
One of my former parish priests was actually one of the priests serving at the funeral. It was kinda cool to see him on TV. I saw him shaking hands with president Obama and I was like…“Woah…I know that guy!!”
:)Hello Looking For Faith can I ask you how long you were a Catholic? I was looking for faith when I came here and found it. I am not to good with it but I try. I watched the funeral also and felt bad for the family and when the grandson said about his grandfather’s work and said “We pray to the lord” “Lord hear our prayer” I was a little confused there, because it did change the mass a little I thought of abortion right away. Love of Christ Nancy
 
To Strawberryjam…(I didn’t catch it) Sorry…

And to Nancy, I was born and raised Catholic. I was involved a lot and was even considering a vocation to the religious life. I began to lose my faith and I had not gone to Mass in two years. I went again for the first time this morning, and I’m going again on sunday. For the last few weeks, I have felt this little tug in my heart so I am exploring it and seeing where God is calling me to go.
 
To Strawberryjam…(I didn’t catch it) Sorry…

And to Nancy, I was born and raised Catholic. I was involved a lot and was even considering a vocation to the religious life. I began to lose my faith and I had not gone to Mass in two years. I went again for the first time this morning, and I’m going again on sunday. For the last few weeks, I have felt this little tug in my heart so I am exploring it and seeing where God is calling me to go.
:)Pardon me but I seemed to have forgotton to say Welcome to CAF! I hope you find what you are looking for and have a wonderful experience here. You are loved Nancy

Also I was away from the church since I was in my late 20’s and I won’t tell you how long that has been but it was to long. I had forgotton alot and they changed alot on me. Now I am trying to learn all over again I do have alot of people here who have helped me out alot, but it is like learning Psalms it took me a while to learn 30 some Psalms by heart. Church Millitant gave a good site to go to and i e-mailed it to myself. Hopefully I can start tomorrow to read it. God Bless You Nancy:thumbsup:

I just found it!
Vatican.va/archive/compendium_ccc/documents/archive_2005_compendium-ccc_en.HTML
 
I think Cardinal O’Malley’s note,
Code:
 [cardinalseansblog.org/2009/09/02/on-senator-kennedys-funeral/](http://www.cardinalseansblog.org/2009/09/02/on-senator-kennedys-funeral/)
summarizes the Mass quite nicely.
As a fellow Franciscan I believe that out holy father St. Francis would have been proud of this son, Cardinal Sean. St. Francis would not have denied any man or woman, regardless of his history, the right to a Catholic funeral, the right to our prayers for the repose of his soul and the consolation of this family. Nor would Francis have absented himself from such a funeral.

Not only did our holy father Francis demand that his brothers and sisters pray for the dead, but he also commanded that we not judge others. It was the mind of our holy father Francis that we see Christ in every man from conception to natural death. Men are sinful and our holy father knew this. But he also knew that only Christ and his mother are sinless.

Let us not forget that our holy father Francis was a friend to the faithful and to the Muslim Sultan who opposed the Catholic faith. Why would any Catholic expect a son of St. Francis to be less compassionate and hold on to a negative view of an individual, even one who was wrong on important issues? That was not the example that Francis taught to his sons and daughters.

Our holy father Francis also taught his sons to obey the Gospel. The Gospel commands us to have mercy. It commands us to forgive sinners. It demands that those who have no sin throw the fist stone. Finally, but not less importantly, St. Francis taught his sons and daughters to be totally poor. Poverty is not only material. But more essentially poverty is detachment from our self-righteousness. Yes, we are bound to the Truth. And as Cardinal Sean has stated, Senator Kennedy’s legacy for the poor would have been complete, if he has also upheld the rights of the unborn, but he didn’t and only he knew why. We cannot know the conscience of another. We can only judge actions, not consciences.

Poverty requires that we strip ourselves of our own opinions and see men and women through the eyes of Christ, as the beloved sons and daughters of the Father for whom his son died and whom he has redeemed. As Franciscans it is our duty and our solemn promise to God, the Church and St. Francis to live the Gospel as Francis lived it and to obey the holy rule that commands us to embrace Christ on the cross.

It is imperative and appropriate for a Franciscan brother, such as Cardinal Sean, to obey the Rule of St. Francis and respond to the late Senator and to his family and friends with fidelity to the words of Christ on the cross by showing mercy. It would have been very disappointing to see a Franciscan Friar hold on to his own feelings toward Senator Kennedy’s voting record and disregard the words of the Gospel, “Forgive them, for they know not what they do.” Sometimes our opinions are the wealth that will keep us from entering the Kingdome of Heaven.

Fraternally,

Br. JR, OSF 🙂
 
As a fellow Franciscan I believe that out holy father St. Francis would have been proud of this son, Cardinal Sean. St. Francis would not have denied any man or woman, regardless of his history, the right to a Catholic funeral, the right to our prayers for the repose of his soul and the consolation of this family. Nor would Francis have absented himself from such a funeral.

Not only did our holy father Francis demand that his brothers and sisters pray for the dead, but he also commanded that we not judge others. It was the mind of our holy father Francis that we see Christ in every man from conception to natural death. Men are sinful and our holy father knew this. But he also knew that only Christ and his mother are sinless.

Let us not forget that our holy father Francis was a friend to the faithful and to the Muslim Sultan who opposed the Catholic faith. Why would any Catholic expect a son of St. Francis to be less compassionate and hold on to a negative view of an individual, even one who was wrong on important issues? That was not the example that Francis taught to his sons and daughters.

Our holy father Francis also taught his sons to obey the Gospel. The Gospel commands us to have mercy. It commands us to forgive sinners. It demands that those who have no sin throw the fist stone. Finally, but not less importantly, St. Francis taught his sons and daughters to be totally poor. Poverty is not only material. But more essentially poverty is detachment from our self-righteousness. Yes, we are bound to the Truth. And as Cardinal Sean has stated, Senator Kennedy’s legacy for the poor would have been complete, if he has also upheld the rights of the unborn, but he didn’t and only he knew why. We cannot know the conscience of another. We can only judge actions, not consciences.

Poverty requires that we strip ourselves of our own opinions and see men and women through the eyes of Christ, as the beloved sons and daughters of the Father for whom his son died and whom he has redeemed. As Franciscans it is our duty and our solemn promise to God, the Church and St. Francis to live the Gospel as Francis lived it and to obey the holy rule that commands us to embrace Christ on the cross.

It is imperative and appropriate for a Franciscan brother, such as Cardinal Sean, to obey the Rule of St. Francis and respond to the late Senator and to his family and friends with fidelity to the words of Christ on the cross by showing mercy. It would have been very disappointing to see a Franciscan Friar hold on to his own feelings toward Senator Kennedy’s voting record and disregard the words of the Gospel, “Forgive them, for they know not what they do.” Sometimes our opinions are the wealth that will keep us from entering the Kingdome of Heaven.

Fraternally,

Br. JR, OSF 🙂
I can understand your Franciscan spirituality, but, there is something greater at stake here, JR. Sometimes, I think, as I read your posts, you seem to put this above what the Church, as a whole, believes. While Franciscans are a part of the Church, they are not, the Church. We have to remember that. All Franciscans are Catholic, but, not all Catholics are Franciscan.

The Archbishop of Boston has to walk a very fine line here. It did sadden me that liturgical abuses occurred during the Mass. This is not something, I would hope, that Franciscans would condone or support. As I have noted in previous posts, the deceased had the right to a properly celebrated Funeral Mass, as all of us do, furneral or otherwise.

The Mass is supposed to be the summit and source of our life as the Church. If we get that wrong, even serving the poor is for naught because the first commandment is to love God. Loving God is the source for properly loving our neighbor.
 
I can understand your Franciscan spirituality, but, there is something greater at stake here, JR. Sometimes, I think, as I read your posts, you seem to put this above what the Church, as a whole, believes. While Franciscans are a part of the Church, they are not, the Church. We have to remember that. All Franciscans are Catholic, but, not all Catholics are Franciscan.

The Archbishop of Boston has to walk a very fine line here. It did sadden me that liturgical abuses occurred during the Mass. This is not something, I would hope, that Franciscans would condone or support. As I have noted in previous posts, the deceased had the right to a properly celebrated Funeral Mass, as all of us do, furneral or otherwise.

The Mass is supposed to be the summit and source of our life as the Church. If we get that wrong, even serving the poor is for naught because the first commandment is to love God. Loving God is the source for properly loving our neighbor.
Neither my post nor Cardinal Sean’s blog post was about the liturgy. It was about the senator and the rite of Christian burrial. I don’t understand how you got around to seeing more at stake in my post or the Cardinal’s. Neither of us have made a statement one way or another on how the liturgy was celebrated.

Fraternally,

Br. JR, OSF 🙂
 
It did sadden me that liturgical abuses occurred during the Mass. This is not something, I would hope, that Franciscans would condone or support. As I have noted in previous posts, the deceased had the right to a properly celebrated Funeral Mass, as all of us do, furneral or otherwise.
I have to take serious issue with the use of the word “abuse” in this instance. There were certainly things that could have been done better but to say there were liturgical “abuses” is a gross overstatement and an injustice to the priests who celebrated the funeral.
 
I have to take serious issue with the use of the word “abuse” in this instance. There were certainly things that could have been done better but to say there were liturgical “abuses” is a gross overstatement and an injustice to the priests who celebrated the funeral.
With all due respect, Father, I stand by what I have written. I sat through the entire broadcast. Much of what happened at the funeral Mass was liturgically incorrect and there were some serious abuses. The eulogy was masking as a homily, when the GIRM specifically states that there should not be a eulogy at the Funeral Mass. The prayers of the Faithful were incorrect and inappropriate. They should have followed the pattern set forth in the Rites. This was wrong. The Memorial Acclamation was omitted completely. No celebrant has the authority to delete (or add) anything to the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass. Per Musicam Sacram, the parts of the Mass belonging to the first degree of the hierarchy should have been sung. Regardless of whether or not the “eulogy” was delivered by the President, this should not have been done at all. Eulogies have no place in a funeral Mass. While the Rite may permit a reflection, it should not be taken to the point of a full-blown homily.

With all due respect, those clergy who were present at the Mass should have known better. Whoever guided the family in planning the funeral Mass should have known better. The fact that this particular liturgy was televised made it all the more urgent with regard to ensuring that this would be a properly celebrated funeral Mass. About the only correct thing that was done was the omission of the Alleluia because it was not sung. But, that was it.
 
With all due respect, Father, I stand by what I have written.
And with all due respect, I think you’re throwing the word abuse around like candy. The fact that something is recited instead of sung may be incorrect but its most certainly not an “abuse.” The fact that the celebrant might have accidentally left out the memorial acclaimation is not an “abuse.”
To be an “abuse” would mean that the celebrant (or planner) was purposely trying to subvert the theology/meaning of liturgical acts. The prayer of the faithful is the only thing that comes remotely close to being an “abuse” of the liturgy and even that was not the most egregious thing I’ve ever seen.

I also think you need to remember that just because you interpret the homily given as a eulogy doesn’t mean everyone else did. I’ve heard many comments that did not interpret the homily as you have done.
I also understand that you interpret the “no eulogy in a homily” as strict as humanly possible but most bishops do not. I already quoted in this thread a diocese’s guidelines on mentioning the life of the deceased in the homily.
In this country, to make no mention of the deceased’s life in a funeral homily would be perceived as an absolute insult to the deceased and the surviving family.
 
And with all due respect, I think you’re throwing the word abuse around like candy. The fact that something is recited instead of sung may be incorrect but its most certainly not an “abuse.” The fact that the celebrant might have accidentally left out the memorial acclaimation is not an “abuse.”
To be an “abuse” would mean that the celebrant (or planner) was purposely trying to subvert the theology/meaning of liturgical acts. The prayer of the faithful is the only thing that comes remotely close to being an “abuse” of the liturgy and even that was not the most egregious thing I’ve ever seen.

I also think you need to remember that just because you interpret the homily given as a eulogy doesn’t mean everyone else did. I’ve heard many comments that did not interpret the homily as you have done.
I also understand that you interpret the “no eulogy in a homily” as strict as humanly possible but most bishops do not. I already quoted in this thread a diocese’s guidelines on mentioning the life of the deceased in the homily.
In this country, to make no mention of the deceased’s life in a funeral homily would be perceived as an absolute insult to the deceased and the surviving family.
But, Father, the homily should be centered around the Gospel and the readings, not around the life of the deceased. I heard the homily that was preached. The homilist spent more time extolling the deceased and about what he did, as opposed to what the Gospel for the Mass said. A lot of this, unfortunately, revolves around poor catechesis regarding what the homily should say. Perhaps in this country, better preparation needs to be made regarding what a funeral Mass homily should be, based upon the principles outlined in the GIRM and in the Rite. The funeral Mass is not the time to canonize the deceased. I have heard that too many times during the course of the funeral Masses that I have assisted.

If you don’t mind my asking: did you watch the funeral Mass? Your post indcates that you heard comments about the homily, but, I do not recall if you said that you actually saw the broadcast. I believe that this is a fair question to ask.

When my parochial vicar celebrated the funeral Mass for my late grandmother, he preached about the Gospel. He made slight mention of her in passing, but, he kept his words confined to the Gospel. That is what he does at just about all of the funeral Masses he celebrates. When my own mother died (and the funeral Mass for her was the first liturgy I ever planned), I made sure that there were no eulogies or reflections at the Mass. Instead, I confined the remarks to after the Vigil of the Deceased. Our pastor (who has since died) also did not spend the homily talking about her. He, like my parochial vicar, kept his remarks to the Gospel. As a widower, he was able to give some perspective to my father, but, these were brief statements (he had already expounded on these at the vigil, but, he did not say too much). I remember because during both occasions, my brain was on liturgy mode and I was focused on making sure that everything ran according to how the Church mandates it. The grieving I did was after everything was over.

The focus of the Mass, whether it is for a funeral, a wedding or an obligatory Mass, should always be on the Lord, not on the individual. We are not Protestants. We have our norms and rubrics. These must be followed. Furthemore, it is pastoral prudence on the part of priests to properly advise and prepare the family as they are making funeral arrangements and explain to them what the Church allows and what she does not allow for the Mass.

The omission of the Memorial Acclamation was an abuse, whether one wants to admit it or not. It was not something that appears to have been accidental. The principle celebrant raced over it. The General Intercessions were also an abuse because the Rite calls for these prayers to be for the repose of the soul of the deceased and for the family. There is a formula that should be followed. Evidently, this was not the case at all.

As I said, I stand by what I said. Sadly, a lot of times, celebrants don’t like to be called out when there are glaring problems in the liturgies they celebrate. However, the Mass is not our personal property to do with as we please. The issue is much more worrisome when such an event is televised and people are given the wrong idea as to what a funeral Mass should be like. Celebrants also carry the burden of obedience to the norms and do not have the authority, as both the Constitution on the Liturgy and Redemptionis Sacramentum note, to make any changes to the Mass on his own initiative.

Father, obviously, I am not a priest. But, I have read the documents and have planned enough liturgies at both the parochial and the diocesan level to know what should and should not be happening at the Mass. Yes, I have even called out my parochial vicar (who was also my rector when I was assisting at the Cathedral) on irregularities. At first, he will get upset, but, after he reads the documents, he realizes that something was amiss. We’ll call each other out. But, as I have already said, once we double check the documents, then we correct the mistakes and resolve not to repeat them. The Liturgy is too great a treasure to treat flippantly. Certainly, regardless of who the deceased was, he deserved to have the Mass celebrated according to what the Church requires. I would hope that when our time comes, we will enjoy that same right as well.
 
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