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lwest
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Also, is there still a KKK influence in our government today? Do we see remnants of it? Thanks, again, all!
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Ridgerunner
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The KKK has been a lot of different things throughout its history. It can be reasonably argued that initially it was something like a “home protection society” protecting former rebels and their families from harrassment by the occupying northern troops, carpetbaggers, etc. At that time, there were Catholics in it.
Later, it turned into a way to keep blacks down.
Later, it turned anti-foreign, anti-Catholic, etc. During that period, its membership included the “best names” in the places where it prevailed. I have a list of the former Klansmen here back during that era, and it included just about “everybody who was anybody”, except Catholics, of course. Their descendants are still here and still prominent, though they don’t know I have the list and I never talk about it.
Then, it sort of died out in that way of being, and became a sort of lower-end southern “keep the blacks down” kind of thing.
Now, it’s a bunch of nuts (lots of separatist and suvivalist types) who really are the dregs of the white folks in this country. They’re anti-everything but themselves, but they’re so diffuse and disorganized that I suspect they would accept a Catholic member now. Maybe not, but they might.
There may be more regional variation now than that, but around here that’s what it is today.
Later, it turned into a way to keep blacks down.
Later, it turned anti-foreign, anti-Catholic, etc. During that period, its membership included the “best names” in the places where it prevailed. I have a list of the former Klansmen here back during that era, and it included just about “everybody who was anybody”, except Catholics, of course. Their descendants are still here and still prominent, though they don’t know I have the list and I never talk about it.
Then, it sort of died out in that way of being, and became a sort of lower-end southern “keep the blacks down” kind of thing.
Now, it’s a bunch of nuts (lots of separatist and suvivalist types) who really are the dregs of the white folks in this country. They’re anti-everything but themselves, but they’re so diffuse and disorganized that I suspect they would accept a Catholic member now. Maybe not, but they might.
There may be more regional variation now than that, but around here that’s what it is today.
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royal_archer
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The klan was formed out of the deparation following the Union invasion of the Confederacy and the resulting humiliating defeat. Some of the defeated chose to strike out against those whom their culture already had a deep hatred for. The post war emotions just gave life to feelings that were already there. Some of it from the long standing hatred by the Protestants/Baptists against the Church. Over time pasivity and acceptance diffused the situation however the underlying feelings are still there and still harbored by many in the Southern Baptist community with or with out a klan. By focusing on that one organization, many others get overlooked.
FYI: there is a difference between sepratist, segregationist and suppremist. Separatist just want to issolate themselves from others, segregationist wish to force that sepparation among others in the poplulation. and the suppremists feel one group should be subserviant to another. Not everyone who tells an off color joke or has an opinion formed from limmited experience should be treated as a suppremist.
FYI: there is a difference between sepratist, segregationist and suppremist. Separatist just want to issolate themselves from others, segregationist wish to force that sepparation among others in the poplulation. and the suppremists feel one group should be subserviant to another. Not everyone who tells an off color joke or has an opinion formed from limmited experience should be treated as a suppremist.
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Ridgerunner
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With regard to Southern Baptists, I think this is pulling it a bit long. I have always lived among them. First of all, they vary greatly from congregation to congregation. Secondly, they’re not what they could have been said to be in, say 1930. Finally, during the 20s and 30s, the KKK was mainly composed of mainline protestant church members. Southern Baptists, particularly the more fundamentalist ones, were dumped on almost as severely as Catholics were. E ven when I was growing up, it wasn’t elite at all to be Southern Baptist. Now, of course, the mainline churches have shrunk greatly, and Baptists have proliferated, so it’s now no longer “uncool” to be a Southern Baptist.
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Eddie_Mac
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Secret_Square
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The KKK are not be-membered by the brightest bulbs.They are not known to be the sharpest knives in the drawer either.In KKK meetings the elevator does not go to the top floor.They are quite often known to be a hamburger short of a happy meal too.Speaking of meals,their tables are one place setting short of the dinner party.One can short of a six-pack, a deck of 50,a fork shy of a place setting.
You forgot to add my favorite expression in this vein: “a taco short of a combination plate”.
You forgot to add my favorite expression in this vein: “a taco short of a combination plate”.
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Beau_Ouiville
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In the seventies, the head of the Klan in Connecticut was an Italian man. He said that Catholics were now acceptable after the election of Kennedy as president.
I wonder what he would say about the last presidential election?
In St. Augustine, FL in the sixties, there was a special auxiliary of the Klan which was made up of Catholics. That’s where some of the worst segregationist rioting took place.
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dsears
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I would love to hear that interview. I’m sure that was rather funny. Sadily enough though I 've grown up around the influence of the Klan. The neighborhood that I grew up in was known for the Klan activity in that area. Luckly within the last few years it has become more intergrated though and we do not hear that much about their activity anymore.
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