Language at Byzantine Church?

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My husband’s parents, grandmother and other family members were at Mt. St. Macrina, Uniontown PA, on Labor Day 1955 when Abp. Sheen became the first Latin Rite bishop to offer a Solemn Byzantine Liturgy in English. There were as many as 150,000 pilgrims there that day.
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Truly a great day in the history of the Catholic Communion!
 
Thanks to everyone who educated me (reader’s digest, yet still VERY helpful!!😃 I am really happy that my husband’s friend is in the likes of Bishop Fulton Sheen. I record all of his shows from the 50’s and 60’s on EWTN. I think…“How nice that this was considered great prime time programing” How things have changed! Thanks for explaining the ritual process that Gustavo will be going through. I did live in San Diego, but after marrying my hubby, moved to north OC, But was just looking into our diocese magazine of parishes and ministries etc… listed, and I found Melikite, Byzantine, Chaldean. I know Coptic’s are NOT in line with Rome so figured I better check about the others before going. I KNEW they crossed themselves differently as I had an Eastern Rite friend in college who came to my Easter vigil confirmation 14 years ago…she told me of some differences, but it’s been so long, and at the time, I only thought Roman Catholic’s were in line with Rome, or I may have just not cared too much…I have surely grown by leaps and bounds over the last 14 years! I just feel like trying something different. I know how holy Gustavo is as a priest, and if he is so interested in it that his spiritual director is Russian Orthodox, and he is trying to be able to celebrate both Masses, that it HAS to be something GOOD, or GREAT. I am really excited for my new adventure this Sunday. If there is anything else I should know like as with the Chaldeans…communion was a little different…please let me know. I’m pretty sure I will stand out…not because I’m not of Eastern European decent, but I only know how to behave in a Catholic Church. The Chaldean Church was very mystical and beautiful, but was different…but I was OK:) thanks in advance for all of the suggestions…much appreciated!
 
onthisrock said:
Thanks to everyone who educated me (reader’s digest, yet still VERY helpful!!😃 I am really happy that my husband’s friend is in the likes of Bishop Fulton Sheen. I record all of his shows from the 50’s and 60’s on EWTN. I think…“How nice that this was considered great prime time programing” How things have changed! Thanks for explaining the ritual process that Gustavo will be going through. I did live in San Diego, but after marrying my hubby, moved to north OC, But was just looking into our diocese magazine of parishes and ministries etc… listed, and I found Melikite, Byzantine, Chaldean. I know Coptic’s are NOT in line with Rome so figured I better check about the others before going. I KNEW they crossed themselves differently as I had an Eastern Rite friend in college who came to my Easter vigil confirmation 14 years ago…she told me of some differences, but it’s been so long, and at the time, I only thought Roman Catholic’s were in line with Rome, or I may have just not cared too much…I have surely grown by leaps and bounds over the last 14 years! I just feel like trying something different. I know how holy Gustavo is as a priest, and if he is so interested in it that his spiritual director is Russian Orthodox, and he is trying to be able to celebrate both Masses, that it HAS to be something GOOD, or GREAT. I am really excited for my new adventure this Sunday. If there is anything else I should know like as with the Chaldeans…communion was a little different…please let me know. I’m pretty sure I will stand out…not because I’m not of Eastern European decent, but I only know how to behave in a Catholic Church. The Chaldean Church was very mystical and beautiful, but was different…but I was OK:) thanks in advance for all of the suggestions…much appreciated!
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Just wondering, onthisrock, if you made it to the Byzantine church this Sunday? In north Orange County the closest might be Annunciation (Ruthenian Byzantine-Catholic) in Anaheim, or Holy Cross Melkite in Placentia. The Ruthenian parish will not be very ethnic at all. There will be a core of ethnic Ruthenians, but lots of people from other backgrounds, and the liturgy will be in English. I’m not as familiar with Holy Cross, but it may be more ethnically middle-eastern, with the Liturgy in a combination of Greek, Arabic, and English. Both parishes will be very friendly to visitors, though so don’t worry about that. Please tell us about your experience if you have a chance.

It may just be a coincidence, but I wonder if your friend, Fr. Gustavo is the same Gustavo L. I know from my Russian Greek-Catholic parish in El Segundo. He was once an altar server and reader there, then later joined a Latin rite religious order, Oblates of St. Joseph, and was ordained.
 
Symeon said:
Just wondering, onthisrock, if you made it to the Byzantine church this Sunday? In north Orange County the closest might be Annunciation (Ruthenian Byzantine-Catholic) in Anaheim, or Holy Cross Melkite in Placentia. The Ruthenian parish will not be very ethnic at all. There will be a core of ethnic Ruthenians, but lots of people from other backgrounds, and the liturgy will be in English. I’m not as familiar with Holy Cross, but it may be more ethnically middle-eastern, with the Liturgy in a combination of Greek, Arabic, and English. Both parishes will be very friendly to visitors, though so don’t worry about that. Please tell us about your experience if you have a chance.

It may just be a coincidence, but I wonder if your friend, Fr. Gustavo is the same Gustavo L. I know from my Russian Greek-Catholic parish in El Segundo. He was once an altar server and reader there, then later joined a Latin rite religious order, Oblates of St. Joseph, and was ordained.
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Yes, Fr. Gustavo is my husband’s best friend, and I went to his ordination at St. Joachim’s in Madera…He was con-celebrant at my wedding at St. Anthony’s in El Segundo where my husband is in the choir. Gustavo’s spiritual adviser was Fr. Alexei, and that’s why he was so interested in the bi-ritual capabilities. Such a small world because another woman on this site is from Philadelphia, like me, and lives in CA near St. Joachim’s Church where Gustavo is a priest in Madera. she and I are going to meet up as she is temporarily in Princeton. However the best part is she teaches NFP at St. Joachim’s! I’m bumping into a few people who know Fr. Gustavo. My husband’s name is Frank (in case you ever saw him with his best friend…that’s my hubby) I never got to Mass at all this week. Unfortunately I got sick last Thursday, and just thought I would be better by Sunday, and Sunday I was a mess, and with a fever etc… But I’ll try for Annunciation in Anaheim as when I went on the Melkite church’s website in Placentia,everyone was dark, not a single light person, and I am VERY white:) thanks for asking though…I’ll let you know how it goes next Sunday!
 
onthisrock said:
Yes, Fr. Gustavo is my husband’s best friend, and I went to his ordination at St. Joachim’s in Madera…He was con-celebrant at my wedding at St. Anthony’s in El Segundo where my husband is in the choir. Gustavo’s spiritual adviser was Fr. Alexei, and that’s why he was so interested in the bi-ritual capabilities. Such a small world because another woman on this site is from Philadelphia, like me, and lives in CA near St. Joachim’s Church where Gustavo is a priest in Madera. she and I are going to meet up as she is temporarily in Princeton. However the best part is she teaches NFP at St. Joachim’s! I’m bumping into a few people who know Fr. Gustavo. My husband’s name is Frank (in case you ever saw him with his best friend…that’s my hubby) I never got to Mass at all this week. Unfortunately I got sick last Thursday, and just thought I would be better by Sunday, and Sunday I was a mess, and with a fever etc… But I’ll try for Annunciation in Anaheim as when I went on the Melkite church’s website in Placentia,everyone was dark, not a single light person, and I am VERY white:) thanks for asking though…I’ll let you know how it goes next Sunday!
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Ahh very interesting, and small world! I don’t think I’ve every met your husband, though I wouldn’t be surprised if I’ve seen him at some point. Sorry about the flu, hope you get better.

Did you also know about St. Andrew’s in El Segundo? It is Russian Greek-Catholic parish. “Greek-Catholic,” by the way, is just another term meaning the same thing as Byzantine-Catholic. Fr. Alexei, whom you identified as Fr. Gustavo’s spiritual father, is pastor there. Yes, Fr. Gustavo is a holy priest and we miss him. Now and then Fr. Gustavo still shows up there to concelebrate on feast days. I’m sure many of us would like to see him more often.

Anyway, even though it might be a bit of a drive, St. Andrew’s might be another option if you are interested in visiting a Byzantine Catholic church. The Liturgy there is in English, and very beautiful. The parish is known for being particularly faithful to Eastern Liturgy and spirituality.
 
In our church, which was formerly known as Ruthenian, the bishops are going to great effort to get it across that, paraphrasing written materials from the eparchies priests conference a year or two ago, “The transcarpathian immigration is over. No more are coming. Growth will be by evangelization.”. I believe this was underlined twice . . .

In accord with eastern tradition, our liturgical language is English.

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dochawk said:
In our church, which was formerly known as Ruthenian, the bishops are going to great effort to get it across that, paraphrasing written materials from the eparchies priests conference a year or two ago, “The transcarpathian immigration is over. No more are coming. Growth will be by evangelization.”. I believe this was underlined twice . . .

In accord with eastern tradition, our liturgical language is English.
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Indeed, Hawk, the Ruthenians and other Slavic peoples received the Truth from Sts. Cyril and Methodius, who translated from Greek into Slavonic so that the Faith would be accessible to these peoples. It is thus in the tradition from the very beginning that the Liturgy and the Word should be understood, and thus naturally and logically rendered in the vernacular in modern times.
 
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