LDS Church's essay on past violence

[TexanKnight]

I’m not interested in defaming the Catholic church. You and Rebecca have claimed that the LDS church has done wrong in dealing with the MMM atrocity, so I’ve asked you to show me how a real Christian church deals with a very similar atrocity.

Besides, you know very well that if I started this as a new thread, I’d get banned for anti-Catholic propaganda, and the thread would get deleted. So again, you’re suppressing the story rather than answering the simple question: what is the Catholic church’s response on this? I don’t like using secularist sources like the Guardian when it comes to church issues; I’d much rather hear what your church has to say on it.

Please share.

That is not true. You would not get banned for starting a thrtead any more than posting same on this one. I understand why you are derailing and continuing to do so. If my church ordered MMM, I would do exactly as you are doing. It is what my 4th-graders did when I taught school. If I got onto a kid for misbehaving, the child’s first instinct was to say, “well Joey did it to!” or, “Joey did worse things!”.

So, I get it. But now I started a thread for you. Let’s see if your goal is discussion or derailing.

 

[Stephen168]

The Father Athanase Seromba incident is quite similar to the Mountain Meadows Massacre incident:

–]A backdrop of extreme violence related to an ongoing civil war./-] (The MMM was the violence in the Utah War, so not a similarity)
-A backdrop of extreme violence along -]religious lines/-] tribal lines. (so not a similarity)
-A low level member of the clergy instigates and leads the atrocity.
-Numerous men, women, and children lured into a vulnerable situation, under the promise of protection.
-The instigating cleric acted without permission of the broader church hierarchy.

The differences:
*2000 innocents died when buldozed inside that church, compared to 200 innocents murdered at Mountain Meadows.
*This happened during our lifetimes.
-]*My guess is that none of you have heard of it before./-] (so not really a difference)
-]*you are probably going to want to change the subject./-] (so not really a difference)
***low level members of the Catholic Church were perpetrators and victims as were Protestants. Two hundred or more priests and nuns, Tutsi and Hutu, were murdered during the genocide. Mormons were only perpetrators.
Event not hidden from Catholics.
In Utah the religion was the government.

 

[Stephen168]

In contrast, you, Rebecca and Tex seem eager to shut up the whole Rwanda thing.

You’re not talking about me, because my only post on the subject was to establish the facts of the comparison.

To me the fact that you haven’t heard about it and you’re trying to quash discussion of it, suggests that it is being hidden by Catholics, i.e. by you.

You don’t know what I know or what I’m willing to discuss.

 

[Sabacthani]

People in Utah were being put on a war footing and martial law was declared. It’s not reasonable for you to deny that similarity, Stephen. I’ll give you more time to think about it.

Your other attempts to distinguish have absolutely no bearing on my question of how the Catholic church justifies or explains its protection of Father Wenceslas Munyeshyaka on charges of rape, murder and genocide, and it’s providing a false identity to Father Athanase Seromba who ordered the bulldozing of his church with 2,000 Tutsis inside, helped to shoot the survivors, and called a little girl who begged for mercy a “cockroach.”

 

[Michael_Francis]

Thread closed pending review by Moderator Eric Hilbert for off topic and derailing posts.