LDS on Eve and original sin

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I’ve just had a remarkable education over at an LDS forum, in which I learned that LDS view Eve as some sort of heroine! She is lauded as the mother of the living, while the Blessed Mother has no such respect or veneration.
Additionally, the idea that God intended/wanted Adam and Eve to sin/disobey Him in order for Him to accomplish His plan has completely floored me.
I’ve got lovely Mormon friends, but we concentrate on what we share in terms of social beliefs, but avoid theological issues. Now I feel this deep shock about the core of their character to think that they really believe God would desire sin.
The fullness of the heresy is just becoming clear to me: sin is a good thing? God was man and men will be gods, among other things?
Boy did they manage to turn Christianity on its head!
Rant over.
 
I know. They turn Eve into a goddess, and their attitude towards Mary approaches blasphemy.
 
My understanding of Mormonism, which is admittedly not very much although I do know a good bit about it, they consider Adam and Eve and the fall to be a good thing. I will get back to you in a few minutes about what I know because I do have a book about Mormonism, and it’s good to check those footnotes.
 
Alright, here’s what I’ve got, from the Mormon scripture itself “Adam fell that man might be; and men are, that they might have great joy” (2 Nephi 2:25). The Gospel principle manual states “The fall was a necessary step in the plan of life and a great blessing of all of us. Owing to the fall, we are blessed with physical bodies (remember, Mormons believe in a pre-mortal existence), the right to choose between good and evil, and the opportunity to gain eternal life. None of the privileges would have been ours if Adam and Eve remained in the garden” (33-34, see Moses 5:11). I got this information from the Book “Inside Mormonism” By Isaiah Bennett. Kudos to him for doing his research.
 
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You are correct. Eve is portrayed as a sort of hero for partaking of the fruit. Adam was just a dolt.
 
And, thanks to my mother’s weird obsession with the 1960s Batman, I got stuck with the dude’s name. Such as life. I’ve noticed in Brigham Young writings that he talks about the “daughters of Eve”, could you explain how that relates to this?
 
Mormon beliefs are actually quite out of the norm though, they just have cult written all over them:

 
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I’ve seen the cartoon, I believe, it comes from something called the god makers, which was a film by Ed Decker and Dave Hunt. So, I’m going to say that even though I think the cartoon is accurate the fact that it has Dave Hunt’s name on it makes me a little weary, as Dave Hunt was also a professional anti-Catholic
 
He was also strongly anti-Calvinist and apart of the Plymouth Brethren, which the Church rejects as Christian due to their invalid baptisms.
 
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Beyond John Nelson Darby, I don’t know much about the Plymouth Brethren. But that brings up other questions about Mormonism, why exactly do Mormons believe, that baptism had been practice since the days of Adam? If I’m reading it right. Has that got something to do with their view of the Fall being positive? If you’re wondering how I connected the two, I was just thinking about how Mormon baptism is invalid.
 
I mean the norm of Christianity, of which the real presence in the Eucharist is actually the norm in Christian doctrine, held by Catholics and Orthodox alike, and most mainline Protestants hold to some form of the real presence.

Mormonism is completely out of the norm, and it’s not even just a little bit odd like maybe the SDA are, yet they still hold the basic tents of the Christian faith and so are rightfully Christians. No, Mormonism is full on cultic!

They believe in many many gods, teaching the Trinity (which they call the Godhead) is actually three gods, and that other gods exist out there in the universe/universes, and that we ourselves can become gods through the “plan of salvation.” So, they teach that God is an exalted man who originally lived on some distant planet or universe and was elevated to godhood by his own god because he too went through and was successful in the “plan of salvation.” Then they go on to teach that God lives on a distant planet/star called “Kolob”, and that we’re the literal spirit children of God and of the goddess the Heavenly Mother, and that Jesus and Lucifer are therefore our literal siblings since they too are spirit children of God and the Heavenly Mother, and that we all get sent to earth to attain physical bodies, hopefully to make it through the “plan of salvation” and become a god of our own to get our own planet or maybe even a whole universe! This all being attained by being good married faithful Mormons who will complete our Mormon duty, and who perform occultist Freemason ceremonies in one of the 157 Mormon temples worldwide in order to give the right hand gestures so that we can enter into heaven.

And that’s not even half of it!
 
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Well, I certainly have major problems with Mormonism, though not individual Mormons who I hope come to the truth of Christ.

Now, what I am conveying when I speak of Mormonism as a cult is this definition, “a religion regarded as unorthodox or spurious” and also, “a relatively small group of people having religious beliefs or practices regarded by others as strange or sinister.”
 
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No, you entirely miss the point. Mormonism is a false blasphemy religion that blasphemes God and destroys his gospel and you do nothing good by defending their false religion.
 
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Blasphemy is an objective, our relationship with God is objective.
 
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I’ve just had a remarkable education over at an LDS forum, in which I learned that LDS view Eve as some sort of heroine! She is lauded as the mother of the living, while the Blessed Mother has no such respect or veneration.
Additionally, the idea that God intended/wanted Adam and Eve to sin/disobey Him in order for Him to accomplish His plan has completely floored me.
I’ve got lovely Mormon friends, but we concentrate on what we share in terms of social beliefs, but avoid theological issues. Now I feel this deep shock about the core of their character to think that they really believe God would desire sin.
The fullness of the heresy is just becoming clear to me: sin is a good thing? God was man and men will be gods, among other things?
Boy did they manage to turn Christianity on its head!
Rant over.
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It is similar in some ways with Catholic teaching – God does know everything so Catechism states:
413 “God did not make death, and he does not delight in the death of the living. . . It was through the devil’s envy that death entered the world” (Wis 1:13; 2:24).

412 But why did God not prevent the first man from sinning?
  • St. Leo the Great responds, "Christ’s inexpressible grace gave us blessings better than those the demon’s envy had taken away."307
  • And St. Thomas Aquinas wrote, "There is nothing to prevent human nature’s being raised up to something greater, even after sin; God permits evil in order to draw forth some greater good.
  • Thus St. Paul says, ‘Where sin increased, grace abounded all the more’; and the Exsultet sings, ‘O happy fault,. . . which gained for us so great a Redeemer!’"308
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