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I’m not sure which words to use to reach out to others for support about this.

Any way, in my early 20s, I was a somewhat devout Catholic, meeting regularly with my spiritual director and trying to remain in good terms with God. Until I met who would become my wife.

Because she was divorced (actually, separated, divorce came later), I ended up distancing myself from the Church for well over 5 years. Until one day when I suggested we go to Mass to thank for my landing a good job. From that day on, we’d go to Mass every now and then. At first, sparsely, later, more frequently, but in no way close to weekly. Later, we started going to another church closer to home. The pastor there conquered both of us and at one point, I’m not quite sure when, we found ourselves going to every Sunday Mass.

Even before we reached this point, some longing for the Church, in particular the sacraments, started to grow in me. I started to want to learn more about the Faith, getting back to spiritual readings as I used to before I met my wife. It wasn’t without great joy when our pastor started teaching “RCIA for Catholics” last week, to which about 200 people showed up (in a 3000-family parish).

Meanwhile, I can’t say that my wife has been as enthusiastic as I have (this is when I suspect I’m being melodramatic). She was baptized Lutheran, but was first married in the Catholic Church. At one point, she wanted badly to get in line to take the Holy Communion, but I advised her that our situation forbade us from doing that. It was in the middle of Mass and I tried to explain to her what’s wrong in our situation that proscribes us from that sacrament. She was very saddened by that and it was probably then that she expressed what sounded to me like a regret to having approached the Church.

She was never raised as a Lutheran. Rather, she was raised as a member of a New Age cult. Perhaps then was when she got a certain distrust for religion in general. Having said this, I have to say that I do this to explain that this journey is perhaps harder for her than for me. She’s got more stumbling blocks than me to go over. Yet, I have to say, all along she’s grown spiritually. Baby-steps, but a baby-step for a baby is something of a Super-Man.

This weekend, after having caught our son with pornography, we all went to Confession, but she didn’t want to. Her first Confession wasn’t all what she expected emotionally, a couple of years ago, so she hasn’t been quite keen on it. As she was reading a guide for examen I used, she was scandalized to see that tying up the tubes was a sin, something we did over a decade ago. Knowing her I knew what was going through her mind: “there goes this Church against common sense again.” Unfortunately, I didn’t have the time to tell her that as we didn’t know that it was wrong we commited any grave sin. But I digress. I only mentioned this event because it’s fresher in my memory. It’s actually one instance among several others like this that I’m afraid add mortar between her stumbling blocks.

If we were alone in this journey, perhaps no one would get hurt. But what leaves me deeply saddened is that it does affect our children. Particularly our 18-year old daughter, I’m afraid. Our 12-year old son is still docile to the Chruch’s teachings, but I’m afraid that some of my wife’s difficulties are rubbing off on our daughter.

I dream about a pious family, yet I’m grateful to the Lord for calling me back and being able to bring along my dearest ones. I can only put my hopes in Him to bring us all close to teh Church, perhaps even giving my wife the courage to start her annulment. For now, I can only pray for it. If only I prayed more often…

Please, during your prayers, say a couple of words for us.

God bless.
 
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Augustine:
I’m not sure which words to use to reach out to others for support about this.

If we were alone in this journey, perhaps no one would get hurt. But what leaves me deeply saddened is that it does affect our children. Particularly our 18-year old daughter, I’m afraid. Our 12-year old son is still docile to the Chruch’s teachings, but I’m afraid that some of my wife’s difficulties are rubbing off on our daughter.
Dear Augustine,

Our family will pray for you and your wife to get straightened out and get into the church. It sounds like she has no spiritual guidance at all; perhaps RCIA classes would help her understand? (wishful thinking?) Do you still have access to the spiritual director you once had? Have you been in touch with the priests at the parish where you are going to Church?

I’m not sure if you just wanted prayer support, or if you wanted advice. I have six children, five in Catholic schools grades 1-12, and one who just graduated high school and is starting at a public university. We talk at home on a regular basis about our faith, including questions and problems we have with it.

You didn’t say much about the chilldren’s views on God and the Church. When you say “docile” do you mean your son is indifferent, or obedient?

I can see from the way you worded it that you are being careful not to blame the Church for the situation you’re in. It’s pretty complicated, but you seem to know your way around Catholic teachings well enough to know what’s going on. I have six children, and by the time they get to the age yours are, they are hypocracy detectors. If you or your wife are hiding resentment or scorn for the Church and its rules they will pick up on it.

How often do you talk to them about matters of faith? Do you pray together as a family? Do you use the Bible to answer practical questions around the house? As a minimum, I’d say keep bringing them to Church every week, abstaining from Communion yourselves until you get it cleared, and keep a positive outlook to encourage your wife not to be negative for the sake of the kids.

Alan
 
  1. you are responsible for the state of your soul, your wife is responsible for her soul
  2. you are the head of the family and it is up to you to set the example, your top priority is your own spiritual health, sacraments as you are able, rectifying anything in the marriage situation that impedes reception of Eucharist, as far as you are able and your wife will cooperate. Get advice of pastor for this, waste no time on it.
  3. live what you teach, and teach your children well, it is your duty undertaken when you asked the Church for their baptism.
  4. are the kids in religious education through Catholic school or reliable CCD and have they received sacraments at the appropriate time, including Confirmation? This is a grave duty for parents. Be vigilant about what they are learning through CCD and youth group.
  5. try to avoid long whispered conversations about complicated subjects during Mass or other inconvenient times, it will just annoy your wife more.
  6. love your wife–it is the best gift any father can give his children
 
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AlanFromWichita:
Our family will pray for you and your wife to get straightened out and get into the church.
May God bless y’all in return.
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AlanFromWichita:
It sounds like she has no spiritual guidance at all; perhaps RCIA classes would help her understand? (wishful thinking?)
When our pastor said he’d start “RCIA for Catholics” I wished she’d jumped on it. Not. I’m going and will try to take my kids with me. I come back home telling her how cool it was, hoping to entice her to come with me next time.
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AlanFromWichita:
Do you still have access to the spiritual director you once had?
No, we’re in different countries now…
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AlanFromWichita:
Have you been in touch with the priests at the parish where you are going to Church?
He’s already offered to talk about this, but she hesitates visiting her previous marriage. I said our daughter, but she’s actually my wife’s daughter. Every year she goes visiting her father and my wife hates having to let her go and even talking to her ex about the travel arrangements. He was abusive and left her scared.
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AlanFromWichita:
I’m not sure if you just wanted prayer support, or if you wanted advice.
Both, actually. Not that the number of prayers are capable of changing God’s mind (none is), but perhaps He’s more merciful with us.
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AlanFromWichita:
You didn’t say much about the chilldren’s views on God and the Church. When you say “docile” do you mean your son is indifferent, or obedient?
I mean “obedient”. I do try to pass on to them the reasoning behind the Church’s teachings. They’re truthful and demonstrably so.
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AlanFromWichita:
I can see from the way you worded it that you are being careful not to blame the Church for the situation you’re in. It’s pretty complicated, but you seem to know your way around Catholic teachings well enough to know what’s going on.
How could I? I knew very well that what I was doing was against the Faith. I just didn’t know that I would ever care again… 😦
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AlanFromWichita:
… they are hypocracy detectors.
Children are natural lie detectors. 🙂 I think that they do pick up my wife’s reluctance. It seems to me that my son isn’t as affected by it as my daughter. She tends to side with her mother at first.
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AlanFromWichita:
How often do you talk to them about matters of faith?
Whenever I can. I try to not let any question unansered.
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AlanFromWichita:
Do you pray together as a family?
Before dinner.
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AlanFromWichita:
Do you use the Bible to answer practical questions around the house?
We oftentimes talk about how insightful the Sunday readings were. As well as our pastor’s brilliant homilies.
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AlanFromWichita:
… and keep a positive outlook to encourage your wife not to be negative for the sake of the kids.
I’ll try. I do tend to despair too easily… :o

God bless.
 
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asquared:
  1. you are responsible for the state of your soul, your wife is responsible for her soul
  2. you are the head of the family and it is up to you to set the example, your top priority is your own spiritual health, sacraments as you are able, rectifying anything in the marriage situation that impedes reception of Eucharist, as far as you are able and your wife will cooperate. Get advice of pastor for this, waste no time on it.
  3. live what you teach, and teach your children well, it is your duty undertaken when you asked the Church for their baptism.
  4. try to avoid long whispered conversations about complicated subjects during Mass or other inconvenient times, it will just annoy your wife more.
  5. love your wife–it is the best gift any father can give his children
Excellent advices.
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asquared:
  1. are the kids in religious education through Catholic school or reliable CCD and have they received sacraments at the appropriate time, including Confirmation? This is a grave duty for parents. Be vigilant about what they are learning through CCD and youth group.
Yes, they are. I always check out the material used in classes and in youth group meetings.

Thank you and God bless.
 
asquared said:
1. you are responsible for the state of your soul, your wife is responsible for her soul
2. you are the head of the family and it is up to you to set the example, your top priority is your own spiritual health, sacraments as you are able, rectifying anything in the marriage situation that impedes reception of Eucharist, as far as you are able and your wife will cooperate. Get advice of pastor for this, waste no time on it.
3. live what you teach, and teach your children well, it is your duty undertaken when you asked the Church for their baptism.
4. are the kids in religious education through Catholic school or reliable CCD and have they received sacraments at the appropriate time, including Confirmation? This is a grave duty for parents. Be vigilant about what they are learning through CCD and youth group.
5. try to avoid long whispered conversations about complicated subjects during Mass or other inconvenient times, it will just annoy your wife more.
6. love your wife–it is the best gift any father can give his children

One more thing that I would like to add to the 6 wonderful points above is to lift your whole family up at the offering of the Holy Eucharist at each mass. This has been a source of great strength for me since I come from a very dysfunctional family and this dysfunctional problem has crept into our household on many occasions. I will pray for you, your wife plus your children and always remember they are God’s children and He knows what is best for them. And:gopray2: :gopray2::gopray2:

Moe
 
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moedom:
I will pray for you, your wife plus your children and always remember they are God’s children and He knows what is best for them.
Thanks and may God bless you all. :blessyou:
 
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