"Lifetime Reveals 2020 Holiday Lineup of 30 New Movies, Including First LGBTQ Romance"

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Maxirad said:
Uh-oh! Should Catholics avoid The Christmas Set Up like the plague ?
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I think you’ve already given this too much thought. It’s really not all that important.

The amount of time you seem to spend soliciting opinions about random tv shows is really something.
 
Imagine never having representation in movies surrounding your favorite holiday. Finally it happens and people say is un-Christian and plague like you exist in the film.

Shame on you!
 
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Since when is Lifetime TV more than campy junk food TV?
 
TheLittleLady said:
Since when is Lifetime TV more than campy junk food TV?
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Exactly. And it’s one of thirty movies. It’s almost as though some people are digging through entertainment websites looking for something to be outraged about.
 
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RolandThompsonGunner said:
I think you’ve already given this too much thought. It’s really not all that important.

The amount of time you seem to spend soliciting opinions about random tv shows is really something.
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^^This.

And there is no purpose to a thread like this, or many of the other threads about some show on the TV, except yet another attempt at pot-stirring.

We’re all aware that there are TV shows and TV movies that portray characters doing all sorts of stuff against Church teaching. It’s not big news every time a new one comes out. Hallmark’s not a Catholic channel.
Maxirad said:
Well, DeniseNY, aren’t you sick and tired of the LGBTQ agenda being forced down your throat?
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With all due respect, there is an off button and a channel changer on our TVs (and the only time I watch Hallmark Channel is once a year when the Kitten Bowl airs). No one forces us to watch anything. Many of us, apparently unlike yourself, rarely watch TV at all.

The one forcing gay stuff down our throat is you yourself, by posting threads about it here for no purpose other than to generate controversy. It’s getting really old and starting to look like agenda posting.
 
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Anonkun said:
Because having such an anti-christian plot in a Christian holiday is reminiscent of the Black Plague (or AIDS if you prefer)
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Now, why would you be bringing AIDS into it? Would you by any chance be referring to the disgusting idea that HIV/AIDS are “the gay plague”?
Anonkun said:
Some lifestyles don’t deserve to be represented
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Would you like to submit a list of lifestyles that “don’t deserve to be represented”? Would you include every “lifestyle” (whatever that means) that contravenes the moral teachings of the Catholic Church or is there something special about homosexuality?

Did you see Last Christmas? I would assume not, as it includes a lifestyle that doesn’t deserve to be represented. There are two sisters. One is having casual sex with men. In one early scene, she is seen going home with a man to have sex with him after randomly meeting in a pub. The other sister is in a long-term monogamous relationship with another woman. So, would you say that neither of these “lifestyles” deserve to be represented or only the lesbian character? Also, does it matter that these “lifestyles” are used over the course of the film to illustrate how the characters can, for example, begin to develop a healthier attitude towards intimacy in relationships or how families can overcome bigotry? I should also mention that the mother of the two sisters is racist. She is, if you like, pursuing the racist lifestyle. In fact, several characters in the film are pursuing the racist lifestyle. Does the racist lifestyle deserve to be represented?

Another 2019 film for you to avoid: Marriage Story. It represents the adultery lifestyle, the divorce lifestyle.
 
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It’s highly unlikely that the person you just responded to enjoys or approves of movies with a lot of heterosexual fornication and adultery in them either, and I think we’d all be happier if that wasn’t accepted in our culture as well. To be honest, the acceptance of heterosexual sinful lifestyles bothers me more than gays, because there’s a far greater number of heterosexual sinners for one thing.

As for your “racist” example, racist characters generally meet a bad end or are used as examples of what not to do. Characters committing sexual sins are generally portrayed neutrally or sympathetically.
 
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Tis_Bearself said:
It’s highly unlikely that the person you just responded to enjoys or approves of movies with a lot of heterosexual fornication and adultery in them either, and I think we’d all be happier if that wasn’t accepted in our culture as well.
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I am sure that you are right, and although I am not a Catholic, I’ve never gone in for casual sex myself. My husband is the only man I’ve ever kissed, let alone had sex with. I don’t think that makes me particularly moral; it’s just the way it worked out. We did a lot of fornicating before we got married, so we are still pretty big sinners.

I guess the example of Last Christmas won’t make sense if you didn’t see the film. To summarise, the heterosexual sister has been having a lot of very casual sex and generally treating people badly. For example,
she “outs” her lesbian sister to their devoutly Catholic parents and she disowns the family’s Croatian heritage
. She undergoes a significant event in her life which leads her to change her lifestyle. For example,
she has a relationship with a man in which they do not have sex at all, but instead enjoy romantic activities such as ice skating and going on walks, and they share a passion for helping homeless people. When she sees Croatian immigrants being racially abused on a bus because they were speaking in Croatian, she starts talking to them in her native Croatian to make them feel welcome and to shame the racists.
At the end of the film, we discover that the thing that made her change was
receiving an organ transplant from a young man who had been killed in a cycling accident
. So, overall, it is a very moral story.

I still think that the poster I was responding to seems to have a particularly bad attitude towards homosexuality. Sure, he is a Catholic and doesn’t like to see homosexuality portrayed as an acceptable “lifestyle”. But why bring AIDS into it? When the words “AIDS” and “plague” are used in such close proximity, it generally means one thing. I would also question the use of the word “lifestyle”. What exactly is a gay “lifestyle”? And, as far as I know, Lifestyle isn’t a Catholic network. So what “deserves” to be represented is irrelevant. Secular film studios and TV networks are not in the business of establishing norms for sexual behaviour. They are free to represent the reality of the world that we live in.
Tis_Bearself said:
As for your “racist” example, racist characters generally meet a bad end or are used as examples of what not to do.
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Yes, that is true.
 
EmilyAlexandra said:
I still think that the poster I was responding to seems to have a particularly bad attitude towards homosexuality.
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Could very well be, but the OP really never shares anything about his own thoughts on a subject. Just posts random entertainment related threads with provocative themes.
 
I avoid all that mushy gushy Hallmark/Lifetime drivel like the plague anyway, so my life won’t change.
 
Maxirad said:
Well, will the movie be particularly toxic for Catholics who would watch it?
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Who cares? Most people who would find it offensive or toxic are never going to watch it anyway, and given that it’s Hallmark, it’s not going to be showing graphic depictions of gay sex.

You have this habit of asking CAF for opinions on obscure tv shows or movies you deem offensive and then not actually engaging in the discussion. If you don’t actually have something to say about it it looks like you’re just trying to stoke a pointless outrage mob.
 
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