Local Food pantries the best solution?

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:angel1::signofcross::angel1:**With all the hunger in this country, are stocking the local (city sponsored) food pantries enough or should each parish do more in their individual neighborhoods?

Should every parish do its best to have a food pantry? I wonder if people receiving food directly from a parish might be drawn to the church, and stop to pray, realizing that in a very personal way that God’s people really love them.
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In my area, all the churches hold food drives, but then all food is delivered to one central food bank. So all the churches support one city food shelf. It is the most efficient.
 
I know of a neighborhood in a small US city where no one goes hungry–not because of food pantries, but because churches open up their basements as soup kitchens. Soup kitchens are more easily done on a smaller scale than a food pantry is. Food pantries work because they are huge and well known and have many volunteers (I have volunteered at a food bank and it was incredible). Large food banks are able to really help people, but if a church is running a small food bank it is not as effective.

Having a soup kitchen also encourages more personal encounters with the people who come, even if it is just a quick exchange when they come through the line.

Each type of organization has its place, but in my experience, churches which have soup kitchens are more effective than churches who have a food pantry.

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:angel1::signofcross::angel1:With all the hunger in this country, are stocking the local (city sponsored) food pantries enough or should each parish do more in their individual neighborhoods?

Should every parish do its best to have a food pantry? I wonder if people receiving food directly from a parish might be drawn to the church, and stop to pray, realizing that in a very personal way that God’s people really love them.
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Each parish is unique so “Should every parish…” is a nonstarter…I mean, should a parish in a highly affluent neighborhood have a local food pantry? Another aspect is hours of operation, volunteers to staff etc…

That said, I think that if the need can be seen and a church (or churches) properly located are willing and able, then yes it is a very good idea and the wealthier parishes should seek to support such efforts.
Also, as a previous poster mentioned “efficiency” is important and I think that is often a driving factor in how the various services are set up. Depending on the size of the city and the needs and the locations of the churches etc…It is often best to utilize groups for whom this is their charism…such as SVDP and others. They often know best.

Peace
James
 
I wonder if people receiving food directly from a parish might be drawn to the church, and stop to pray, realizing that in a very personal way that God’s people really love them.
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I grew up very poor. My parents left the Church because they could not afford to pay for all of our ccd classes and the parish wouldn’t budge. They were disgusted and left. The local Lutheran church delivered bags of food to the homes of needy families every week or other week, including our own. Guess which church we started attending? It was the personal concern these ppl showed for us that our Catholic parish, very sadly at the time didn’t, which attracted us.

Of course I don’t agree with my parents having left the Church and I constantly pray for their reversion, but you aren’t wrong about this.
 
Each parish is unique so “Should every parish…” is a nonstarter…I mean, should a parish in a highly affluent neighborhood have a local food pantry? Another aspect is hours of operation, volunteers to staff etc…

That said, I think that if the need can be seen and a church (or churches) properly located are willing and able, then yes it is a very good idea and the wealthier parishes should seek to support such efforts.
Also, as a previous poster mentioned “efficiency” is important and I think that is often a driving factor in how the various services are set up. Depending on the size of the city and the needs and the locations of the churches etc…It is often best to utilize groups for whom this is their charism…such as SVDP and others. They often know best.

Peace
James
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I do humbly pray it is never a “non starter” to wonder if any parish, “highly affluent” or not, might remember the poor, no matter how elegant their own accommodations.

My heart goes out to all the workers riding buses to the elegant homes in these “highly affluent neighborhoods.” Housekeepers, maids, poorly- paid part- time lawn workers (often with English as a second language as yet another challenge,) traveling to and from work each day. Their own poor neighborhoods often cannot afford to provide either food pantries or soup kitchens, and so, many workers and their families draw up at the end of the day to a bleak, bare table and empty cupboards.

Thousands of precious children in this country go to bed hungry each night. I pray it is not considered a “non starter” to wonder if all parishes might find it in their hearts, might be inspired, to grace their elegant territory with an island of hope provided by a food pantry or meal.

I like to think of the worker, heading to the bus stop, finding either a lovingly prepared meal in this affluent area, or a bag of groceries from a church run pantry to take along on his ride home. There may be nothing but more poverty in his own neighborhood to greet him. Geography, land, estates, all belong to the God of love and compassion. Perhaps He might inspire us to think outside the box a little. I do pray so.

Buses are full of workers going back and forth from meager dwellings to these highly affluent neighborhoods. Dotting the travel space in between the two areas with parish- run food pantries or soup kitchens would be a most welcome supplement to the worker’s meager incomes. The workers own poorer neighborhoods can rarely afford to offer alternatives. Why not meet them where they can, and offer help in the very parishes that can better afford it?

If these highly affluent people would look outside their well appointed vehicles as they pass by, they might venture to notice trailer parks or low income housing dotting the outskirts of their lovelier neighborhoods. They would see all the buses connecting the “haves” to the “have nots.”

I know of one such neighborhood in CT., which surprisingly, has as many Thrift Stores as some run down, urban areas across the country, as well as a food pantry, none of which was set up for the benefit of the wealthy residents. Their house workers see the food pantry and Thrift Store as they go to and from work, and are grateful for them. They can stop off for a hot meal, or gather together a bag of groceries that will feed their family a few days longer. Our hearts should break at the thought of anyone suffering a lack of food, especially a hungry child waiting at home and counting on his parent, whose wages are never enough to sustain them properly.

Efficiency is fine, but I admire the poster who commented on* the more personal touch *of providing parish- run food pantries and soup kitchens in addition to helping stock the efficiently- run, larger food banks.

Perhaps, as someone who has experienced homelessness and hunger first hand, and has worked in these great homes for very little pay while raising a child, it’s only natural that I might feel that large city or government- run food pantries may not have the spiritual aspect and human touch so lacking in those larger, efficiently- run programs. We certainly need both, but how lovely to have that human touch. Someone seeing Christ in the face of every homeless, hungry person, how beautiful to set aside such a sacred space?

The beginnings and ends of months are such a challenge, when bills are paid or due, and cupboards are bare. How lovely, after a hard days work to find a friendly human being setting out a meal, one that would not be awaiting them at home, or to retrieve a bag of groceries to feed their children when the alternative scene awaiting them is so achingly bleak?

I pray that it was not a non- starter to ask if every parish might think of our poorer brethren, no matter how elegant their own lawns, no matter the temporal differences in status that may cause some to want to separate human kind into geographical categories.

I think the angels must long to see arms extended in prayer and offerings of aid to the “least among us” and cannot help but “start” a discussion of compassion, no matter where it may lead or however love may inspire us to act.**
 
I know of a neighborhood in a small US city where no one goes hungry–not because of food pantries, but because churches open up their basements as soup kitchens. Soup kitchens are more easily done on a smaller scale than a food pantry is. Food pantries work because they are huge and well known and have many volunteers (I have volunteered at a food bank and it was incredible). Large food banks are able to really help people, but if a church is running a small food bank it is not as effective.

Having a soup kitchen also encourages more personal encounters with the people who come, even if it is just a quick exchange when they come through the line.

Each type of organization has its place, but in my experience, churches which have soup kitchens are more effective than churches who have a food pantry.

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:angel1::amen::blessyou:I totally agree, especially what you shared about encouraging more personal encounters. We need both kinds of help, large food banks and parish food pantries and soup kitchens. It’s just nice to realize that people receiving aid from the Church may have that spiritual connection that may bring them closer to God. Efficiency is fine, but the heart matters so much more.**
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I grew up very poor. My parents left the Church because they could not afford to pay for all of our ccd classes and the parish wouldn’t budge. They were disgusted and left. The local Lutheran church delivered bags of food to the homes of needy families every week or other week, including our own. Guess which church we started attending? It was the personal concern these ppl showed for us that our Catholic parish, very sadly at the time didn’t, which attracted us.

Of course I don’t agree with my parents having left the Church and I constantly pray for their reversion, but you aren’t wrong about this.
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I am so sorry about your experience, and understand what you mean: while remaining a faithful Catholic yourself, people do feel things strongly and naturally react to loving kindness with gratitude and respect. The Catholic Church has, historically, been so generous, so it’s sad to hear when we hear of rare experiences like yours. These times we are living in now may show us more and more people needing assistance, facing homelessness and hunger. I just believe that expanding whatever help we can will just show God’s compassion in a very real way. Thank you for sharing.**:grouphug::hug1:
 
**With all the hunger in this country, are stocking the local (city sponsored) food pantries enough or should each parish do more in their individual neighborhoods? **

**Should every parish do its best to have a food pantry? I wonder if people receiving food directly from a parish might be drawn to the church, and stop to pray, realizing that in a very personal way that God’s people really love them. **
most food pantries like Food Bank, Second Harvest are private non-profits, not city or state sponsored, organizations, or they are sponsored by Churches and other non-profits. The most productive way is for all the organizations in the community, city or county to work together to make sure the food is gathered and distributed efficiently, that all those residing in each neighborhood have a place close enough to get food when need, and to coordinate collection and distribution of food, especially at times like Thanksgiving. We saw people coming to St Vincent for a turkey who already had several food baskets and turkeys in their cars from other locations. Stewardship includes best us of resources of money, commodities, volunteers, staff and space.

if the parish does not have the space or facility to run a food pantry safely and in compliance with health laws, they should work with the local food bank or similar organization so they know where to refer people for help, and so the parish can provide financial assistance and volunteer help on a regular basis.

this parish has an active St Vincent dePaul Society, including a food pantry that distributes food 3 days a week, some from the Food Bank, and some from parishioner donations. However food is the least needed service they provide as most of the clientele is able to get by on foodstamps and WIC, and some months all the food is not distributed because no one wants it. By far the largest portion of the (very significant) financial support parishioners give to St.V goes for emergency utility bills, to prevent shut-offs, medication and prescriptions, medical bills and medical transportation. Note this is an urban parish in the county seat of one of the 10 poorest counties in the nation.
 
I do humbly pray it is never a “non starter” to wonder if any parish, “highly affluent” or not, might remember the poor, no matter how elegant their own accommodations.
I do humbly pray that when a person reads a post I make that they read carefully and fully. I do try to take care in considering questions asked and how I answer them.
In your OP you asked if “every parish should”…My response was that every parish is different and having their own pantry might not be the best use of resources. I apologize if the manner in which I expressed it was offensive.
My heart goes out to all the workers riding buses to the elegant homes in these “highly affluent neighborhoods.” Housekeepers, maids, poorly- paid part- time lawn workers (often with English as a second language as yet another challenge,) traveling to and from work each day. Their own poor neighborhoods often cannot afford to provide either food pantries or soup kitchens, and so, many workers and their families draw up at the end of the day to a bleak, bare table and empty cupboards.
This is indeed a good point…However I also would hope that the food pantry might be located near to the peoples homes so that perhaps they do not need to get on an off the buses more than necessary while lugging groceries, clothing etc from the church in an inconvenient location.
Thousands of precious children in this country go to bed hungry each night. I pray it is not considered a “non starter” to wonder if all parishes might find it in their hearts, might be inspired, to grace their elegant territory with an island of hope provided by a food pantry or meal.
My response was not about whether to help or not and I was quite clear in this. My response was that individual local panties may not be the best solutions for every parish.
I’ll give you one example. My local parish is not in an affluent neighborhood but it is also not in much of a neighborhood at all…It is on a very busy, main thoroughfare, fairly poor bus service, and not the best access tot he street. It works fine for the Church and School but would not work so well for bus riders trying to pick up a bag of groceries…Trust me on this.
Does that mean that we do nothing…Far from it. We partner with SVDP in several of their programs. The parish even owns a small house that is run by SDVP which they use for displaced families while other arrangements are made.
In addition we partner with an ecumenical group of Churches offering food, clothing etc through various outlets.

To summarize, the two words that seem to have disturbed you so much “non-starter” simply referred to your question of whether "every parish should have it’s own food pantry. That answer is clearly no…
Now - should every parish do it’s best to make provision for the poor??? Of course they should…

I hope I have clarified my position for you.

Peace
James
 
I do humbly pray that when a person reads a post I make that they read carefully and fully. I do try to take care in considering questions asked and how I answer them.
In your OP you asked if “every parish should”…My response was that every parish is different and having their own pantry might not be the best use of resources. I apologize if the manner in which I expressed it was offensive.

This is indeed a good point…However I also would hope that the food pantry might be located near to the peoples homes so that perhaps they do not need to get on an off the buses more than necessary while lugging groceries, clothing etc from the church in an inconvenient location.

My response was not about whether to help or not and I was quite clear in this. My response was that individual local panties may not be the best solutions for every parish.
I’ll give you one example. My local parish is not in an affluent neighborhood but it is also not in much of a neighborhood at all…It is on a very busy, main thoroughfare, fairly poor bus service, and not the best access tot he street. It works fine for the Church and School but would not work so well for bus riders trying to pick up a bag of groceries…Trust me on this.
Does that mean that we do nothing…Far from it. We partner with SVDP in several of their programs. The parish even owns a small house that is run by SDVP which they use for displaced families while other arrangements are made.
In addition we partner with an ecumenical group of Churches offering food, clothing etc through various outlets.

To summarize, the two words that seem to have disturbed you so much “non-starter” simply referred to your question of whether "every parish should have it’s own food pantry. That answer is clearly no…
Now - should every parish do it’s best to make provision for the poor??? Of course they should…

I hope I have clarified my position for you.

Peace
James
 
**Originally Posted by JRKH
“I do humbly pray that when a person reads a post I make that they read carefully and fully. I do try to take care in considering questions asked and how I answer them.
In your OP you asked if “every parish should”…My response was that every parish is different and having their own pantry might not be the best use of resources. I apologize if the manner in which I expressed it was offensive.”

Thank you James.

“This is indeed a good point…However I also would hope that the food pantry might be located near to the peoples homes so that perhaps they do not need to get on an off the buses more than necessary while lugging groceries, clothing etc from the church in an inconvenient location.”

Larger parishes can and do donate to the smaller parishes, so that any geographical or travel concerns are addressed.

“My response was not about whether to help or not and I was quite clear in this. My response was that individual local panties may not be the best solutions for every parish.
I’ll give you one example. My local parish is not in an affluent neighborhood but it is also not in much of a neighborhood at all…It is on a very busy, main thoroughfare, fairly poor bus service, and not the best access tot he street. It works fine for the Church and School but would not work so well for bus riders trying to pick up a bag of groceries…Trust me on this. Does that mean that we do nothing…Far from it. We partner with SVDP in several of their programs. The parish even owns a small house that is run by SDVP which they use for displaced families while other arrangements are made.
In addition we partner with an ecumenical group of Churches offering food, clothing etc through various outlets.”

Many of these “not much of a neighborhood” areas would surprise you with the number of unseen inhabitants. I lived for quite some time in the basement of an office building which was on a main thoroughfare, and had there been a parish anywhere nearby with a food pantry or soup kitchen, it would have been quite a blessing for myself and my young child.

And we must remember our dear homeless brethren, who frequent libraries for warmth, and sleep on benches. I think many would be shocked at the places where people must live. Most importantly, there has been a great rise in newly homeless families now forced to live in cars. They shower at gas stations, take their children to school by day, and live under the radar of usual assistance.

To summarize, the two words that seem to have disturbed you so much “non-starter” simply referred to your question of whether "every parish should have it’s own food pantry. That answer is clearly no…
Now - should every parish do it’s best to make provision for the poor??? Of course they should…

Exactly my point, and glad we agree, every parish can do something whether large or small. Christ’s call to offer the cup of water to the thirsty person is an inspiration here. People often think that helping the poor is something to be addressed only by those with a “special call” or “charism.” I believe all Catholics are called to do whatever they can. I like to think of how Christ left the 99 who were safe and went in search of the one lost lamb. Often cast by the wayside, these souls often show up i the most surprising places! I know we can find them, wherever we are, if we but look for them more diligently, and think a bit outside the box that affluence sometimes casts upon those who have not lived in desperate circumstances.
All Peace to You, James,
Kathryn Ann**

I hope I have clarified my position for you.
And I for you,
Peace in Christ
 
One slightly ‘to the side’ thought on this. In our local paper recently,someone who ran a food bank suggested we donate money rather than food - they are able to buy things way cheaper, stretching the donations.
 
I believe that all parishes should be involved in spiritual and corporal works of mercy. This is very important. I am sure God will bless any parish that is involved in spiritual and corporal works of mercy. Whether this means feeding and clothing the poor or something else, it is a good thing. Now, granted, some parishes are very small and won’t be able to be involved in spiritual and corporal works of mercy on a large basis but they can still do it on a small basis. Also, each and every parishioner should also be involved in personally performing spiritual and corporal works of mercy.
 
One slightly ‘to the side’ thought on this. In our local paper recently,someone who ran a food bank suggested we donate money rather than food - they are able to buy things way cheaper, stretching the donations.
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Great comment!
:twocents:Yes, we have the same thing here: If you give one dollar to the local city run food bank, they can buy nearly ten dollars of groceries from specific businesses, which is amazing:) A nice combination of all: stocking large food banks, as well as food pantries and soup kitchens in all kinds of places would reach more people in distress:)
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I believe that all parishes should be involved in spiritual and corporal works of mercy. This is very important. I am sure God will bless any parish that is involved in spiritual and corporal works of mercy. Whether this means feeding and clothing the poor or something else, it is a good thing. Now, granted, some parishes are very small and won’t be able to be involved in spiritual and corporal works of mercy on a large basis but they can still do it on a small basis. Also, each and every parishioner should also be involved in personally performing spiritual and corporal works of mercy.
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Yes, I do like to think of St. Therese of Lisieux, (and of “the Little Way”) in this regard. Even though not all people can do great works, we do need these small acts of individual kindness as well. And Blessed Mother Teresa of Calcutta taught about doing small acts of kindness with great love. :gopray2:

People in one parish near me go all the time to a small church food pantry (which is more like a medium sized closet.) Some larger parishes decided to give them a larger amount of its own food drive donations when they learned that the larger local city- run food bank has now begun to charge money for the parishes (for food used in the parish’s soup kitchens). The parish decided to give much of the food drive donations to the little food pantry and to a small parish which runs a twice weekly soup kitchen. :harp:

Sometimes the larger places work, and sometimes people need to be helped where they live. I wake up each morning remembering what it was like living in dire circumstances myself with a young child. Thank God for granting a wonderful Catholic husband who took us on:) If people can only connect in real compassion, we will feel more keenly how those in distress are living. We all share this calling, I agree. **
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