Lord's prayer

[djijamyjoys]

Is it possible that JESUS might have been speaking of the Holy Mass when he gave the apostles the Lord’s prayer?

 

[ryanoneil]

I’m sorry I can’t cite the original greek or where I read it. The book I was reading said that “our daily bread” translated back into greek, was super-natural or super-substantial bread. Can anyone back this up?

Ryan

 

[lak611]

From Vine’s:

Daily

(Adjective)

1. epiousios (G1967) is found in Mat_6:11 and Luk_11:3. Some would derive the word from epi, “upon,” and eimi, “to be,” as if to signify “(bread) present,” i.e., sufficient bread, but this formation is questionable. The same objection applies to the conjecture, that it is derived from epi, and ousia, and signifies “(bread) for sustenance.” The more probable derivation is from epi, and eimi, “to go,” (bread) for going on, i.e., for the morrow and after, or (bread) coming (for us). See the RV marg. This suits the added semeron, “to-day,” i.e., the prayer is to be for bread that suffices for this day and next, so that the mind may conform to Christ’s warning against anxiety for the morrow. Confirmation of this derivation is also to be found in the word epious, in the phrase “the next day,” Act_7:26; Act_16:11.
2. ephemeros (G2184) signifies “for the day” (epi “upon, or for,” hemera, “a day,” Eng., “ephemeral”), Jam_2:15.
3. kathemerinos (G2522) means, lit., “according to” (kata) “the day” (hemera), “day by day, daily,” Act_6:1.
   Notes: The following phrases contain the word hemera, “day,” and are translated “daily” or otherwise: (a) kath’ hemeran, lit., “according to, or for, (the) day, or throughout the day,” “day by day,” e.g., Luk_11:3; Act_3:2; Act_16:5; 1Co_15:31; Heb_7:27; (b) hemera kai hemera, lit., “day and day,” “day by day,” 2Co_4:16; (c) hemeran ex hemeras, lit., “day from day,” “from day to day,” 2Pe_2:8; (d) semeron, “this day,” or “today,” used outside the Synoptists and the Acts, in 2Co_3:14-15, eight times in Hebrews, and in Jam_4:13; (e) tessemeron hemeras, “(unto) this very day,” Rom_11:8 (RV); (f) tas hemeras, Luk_21:37, RV, “every day,” for KJV, “in the daytime”; (g) pasan hemeran, Act_5:42, RV, “every day”; preceded by kata in Act_17:17, RV, “every day”; (h) kath’ hekasten hemeran, lit., “according to each day,” Heb_3:13, “day by day,” RV.

Also from Vine’s:

Bread
(e) “food in general,” the necessities for the sustenance of life, Mat_6:11; 2Co_9:10, etc.

 

[Todd_Easton]

Yes. Among other things it may refer to the Eucharist.

Haydock’s Catholic Bible commenatary on Matthrew 6:11 says:
Ver. 11. Our supersubstantial bread.[2] So it is at present in the Latin text: yet the same Greek word in St. Luke, is translated daily bread, as we say it in our Lord’s prayer, and as it was used to be said in the second or third age, as we find by Tertullian and St. Cyprian. Perhaps the Latin word, supersubstantialis, may bear the same sense as daily bread, or bread that we daily stand in need of; for it need not be taken for supernatural bread, but for bread which is daily added, to maintain and support the substance of our bodies. (Witham) — In St. Luke the same word is rendered daily bread. It is understood of the bread of life, which we receive in the blessed sacrament. (Challoner) — It is also understood of the supernatural support of the grace of God, and especially of the bread of life received in the blessed eucharist. (Haydock) — As we are only to pray for our daily bread, we are not to be over solicitous for the morrow, nor for the things of this earth, but being satisfied with what is necessary, turn all our thoughts to the joys of heaven. (St. Chrysostom, hom. xx.)