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My good cyberfriend Catholic Dude asked me, on another thread (
forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?p=586021#post586021) here at CAF, as follows:
We met first meet Lot towards the end of Genesis 11 where he is depicted as having been taken along by his grandfather Terah, on the latter’s journey from Ur to Canaan. He next appears in Genesis 12. Terah has died & Lot’s Uncle Abram is now looking out for him:
Lot next appears in Genesis 13:1
Regarding the clash between the shepherds, our Sages say that Lot’s herdsmen were encroaching on the grazing areas that Abram’s herdsmen were using, and that Lot’s people said: “Your master * is an old mule (mules, of course, are sterile). All that belongs to him will one day belong to our master, so we’ll just help ourselves now since it’s going to be ours anyway.”
Abram sees this conflict and bids that he & his nephew separate. Our Sages notice that after God spoke to Abram in Genesis 12:1-3, He didn’t speak to him again until after he and Lot had parted ways (in Genesis 13:14, “And the Lord said unto Abram, after that Lot was separated from him: 'Lift up now thine eyes…”). One of my rabbis writes:
Lot wanders, first with grandfather Terah from Ur to Haran, then with Uncle Avram from Haran to Canaan to Egypt & back to Canaan gain. Then he goes off to Sodom. Then he is taken captive and rescued by Uncle Abram. Then he goes back to Sodom. Then he is forced to leave Sodom. His physical wandering is matched by his spiritual wandering. Lot’s not at home with godly Uncle Abram because there’s too much of ungodly Sodom in him. But neither is Lot really at home in ungodly Sodom there’s too of godly Uncle Abram in him. Lot is torn & is at home nowhere.
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My good cyberfriend Catholic Dude asked me, on another thread (
forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?p=586021#post586021) here at CAF, as follows:
People who see the Bible as an adult version of a first grade reader, i.e. with everything very simply/simplistically laid out & spelled out, no depth, no use of simile, metaphor & allegory, no layers of meaning, and with shallow, uncomplex, made-out-of-cardboard characters who never have mixed motives, will break their teeth on Lot. Lot fascinates me precisely because he is complex, tragic and because he can teach us a great deal, even though he was a fairly minor supporting player.6)Why did Lot stay in such an evil city. On Jewishencyc, it says that he was given into greed, lust and neglected his daughters, so why did God save him? It says that his life was spared because he didnt betray Abraham, but none the less Lot was a bad guy who should have deserved a punishment. I always thought that he was spared because he was God fearing and by showing hospitality to the Angels.
We met first meet Lot towards the end of Genesis 11 where he is depicted as having been taken along by his grandfather Terah, on the latter’s journey from Ur to Canaan. He next appears in Genesis 12. Terah has died & Lot’s Uncle Abram is now looking out for him:
Lot dutifully trudges along with his uncle. There is yet no hint of the trouble that is to come. When do we get that first hint that something is going awry, that a minor rift, which will soon become an unbridgeable chasm, has appeared?So Abram went, as the Lord had spoken unto him; and Lot went with him; and Abram was seventy and five years old when he departed out of Haran. And Abram took Sarai his wife, and Lot his brother’s son…
Lot next appears in Genesis 13:1
Ah, here it is, that first sign that Lot is veering off the path. Previously, in Genesis 12:4, the Hebrew word translated as “with” (as in “Lot went with him”) is et. But here, in 13:1, the Hebrew word translated as “with” (as in “and Lot with him”) is im. Pharoah had made Abram rich (actually, Abram was rich to begin with, Pharoah just made him even more rich). Our Sages teach that Lot looked at Abram’s wealth and thought All of this wealth, it will all be mine one day. Abram & Sarai are old and childless. I’m their nephew and, as such, their heir. All Uncle Abram’s wealth will one day be mine. The conflict that would soon break out into the open (between Lot’s shepherds & Abram’s shepherds) first manifested itself in Lot’s heart, whetted as it was by greed, as they returned from Egypt.And Abram went up out of Egypt, he, and his wife, and all that he had, and Lot with him, into the South. And Abram was very rich in cattle, in silver, and in gold…
Regarding the clash between the shepherds, our Sages say that Lot’s herdsmen were encroaching on the grazing areas that Abram’s herdsmen were using, and that Lot’s people said: “Your master * is an old mule (mules, of course, are sterile). All that belongs to him will one day belong to our master, so we’ll just help ourselves now since it’s going to be ours anyway.”
Abram sees this conflict and bids that he & his nephew separate. Our Sages notice that after God spoke to Abram in Genesis 12:1-3, He didn’t speak to him again until after he and Lot had parted ways (in Genesis 13:14, “And the Lord said unto Abram, after that Lot was separated from him: 'Lift up now thine eyes…”). One of my rabbis writes:
Abram bids Lot to choose where he will go. Lot sees the wealth of Sodom and its environs and moves to Sodom.One commentary says that although Avra[h]am knew that his spirituality was compromised by Lot’s presence, he nonetheless did not chase Lot away until he had no choice. Avra[h]am felt a moral obligation to take care of Lot (including saving him after they parted) even though he knew that G-d was “keeping His distance” with Lot around. There are some interesting ramifications for us, of this behavior of Avra[h]am’s. How to we view time spend doing chessed [acts of kindness]; and kiruv [drawing non-religious Jews towards our faith], at the expense of personal growth. Think about it.
Lot wanders, first with grandfather Terah from Ur to Haran, then with Uncle Avram from Haran to Canaan to Egypt & back to Canaan gain. Then he goes off to Sodom. Then he is taken captive and rescued by Uncle Abram. Then he goes back to Sodom. Then he is forced to leave Sodom. His physical wandering is matched by his spiritual wandering. Lot’s not at home with godly Uncle Abram because there’s too much of ungodly Sodom in him. But neither is Lot really at home in ungodly Sodom there’s too of godly Uncle Abram in him. Lot is torn & is at home nowhere.
(cont.)*