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Today is the Memorial of the Presentation of the Blessed Mother.

The Antiphons are from the common of the Saints, page 1372. Divineoffice.org, once again has the wrong page.

Anyway, on :Page 1372, there are several hymns to chose from. Divineoffice.org is using Hymn 165 Mary the Dawn.

Jim
 
Jim:

Ok, now I got it, the (1372) under Nov. 21 guide after MP means the page number for the Hymn. That is how to find the hymn of the day. Am I right?
 
Right.

That being said, you’re not required to sing the hymn when you pray the LOTH’s by yourself.

The LOTH’s was designed to be prayed with a group.

Singing the hymn isn’t necessary when your alone.

Jim
 
That is good to know. But if I know the correct one for the day, I’ll say it out loud. I don’t sing.🙂

Another question to confirm my understanding: since page 1372 - 1373 has 3 Ant. we are supposed to use them to replace the Ant. on page 748, 750, 753 for today’s morning prayer because the feast day of Mary’s presentation, correct?

Also, for today’s evening prayer, does it matter to use page 754 to page 759, or page 1378- 1382? Is it our choice?

Thanks.
 
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Another question to confirm my understanding: since page 1372 - 1373 has 3 Ant. we are supposed to use them to replace the Ant. on page 748, 750, 753 for today’s morning prayer because the feast day of Mary’s presentation, correct?
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Correct. One correction, today is a Memorial. Memorial’s are mandatory and celebrated through the entire Church. Feast days can vary.
Also, for today’s evening prayer, does it matter to use page 754 to page 759, or page 1378- 1382? Is it our choice?
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Only the Antiphons are taken from the Common of Saints, pages 1378-1382. The psalms only are taken from the psalter, page 754.

Jim
 
JimR-OCDS said:
InLight247

Correct. One correction, today is a Memorial. Memorial’s are mandatory and celebrated through the entire Church. Feast days can vary.

Only the Antiphons are taken from the Common of Saints, pages 1378-1382. The psalms only are taken from the psalter, page 754.

Jim
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Jim, I was under the impression that memorials are optional- am I wrong? Thanks!
 
I’m still a bit confused.

My husband is obligated to pray the LOTH morning and evening prayers because he is in formation to become a deacon. He is under the impression that he does not “have” to pray the memorial days. He just sent an email to the diocese chancellor to double check this.

I am a lay person, but I still pray them twice a day to support my husband and because I like to pray them. I am under no official “obligation” to pray them, so I am not obliged to pray the memorials, correct?:confused:
 
There are two kinds of memorials: optional, and mandatory. In Christian Prayer (and other LOTH books), under the title of the memorial, if it says “Memorial”, then it’s not optional. If it doesn’t say anything, it’s optional.

To be “liturgical”, the LOTH must follow the calendar and so one is bound to say the mandatory memorials.

That said, for memorials, there are options:
  1. For the hymn, if the memorial doesn’t have a proper hymn you can use the hymn from the day, or from the commons; for instance if the memorial is for a martyr, you could use the daily hymn or from the common of martyrs, unless a proper hymn is specified for the saint, in which case you use it;
  2. The psalmody with its antiphons is from the day, unless the memorial has proper antiphons, in which case the Sunday psalms are used for Morning Prayer, and the psalms from the commons at Evening Prayer.
  3. For the gospel canticle, if it’s antiphon proper to the saint, one uses it; else one uses the one from the commons, or of the day;
  4. For the short readings at Morning Prayer, and the following responsory, you can use the reading of the day or of the commons; the same thing with the intercessions;
  5. The collect is always of the saint, or if one isn’t available (for example a newly-canonized saint) one uses the one from the commons (often there’s more than one choice).
I realize you said Morning and Evening prayer only, but for the benefit of others:
  1. For the invitatory, the antiphon is from the proper if there is one, or the common or day if not;
  2. For the Office of Readings, the same rule as above for the hymns; the psalmody and antiphons is always of the day, and the second reading is of the saint; if none is available, it can be from the common or the day. The first reading is always of the day;
  3. Mid-day prayer and Night Prayer (and the other minor hours) are all of the day, the saint isn’t taken into consideration.
Happy praying!
 
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