Luke 12:51,52 Really pertains to me I guess

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“Do you think that I have come to give peace on earth? No, I tell you, but rather division”

As a hardcore catholic I have come to the realization that not only does this verse pertains to the context of chapter 12, I have truly felt that this pertains to my situation.

As some of you may have read in one of my earlier posts about my son wanting to choose to be baptized as an adult, yet he has already recieved this blessed sacrament as a baby, I feel that my wife is turning against me.

I choose to love my son because he is my son, but just because i love him does not mean that I agree with him. This was the topic of the morning with my wife. In trying to make her understand, she poses a somewhat similar scenario; “Would you love me if I decided that I no longer want to go to a Catholic Church and decide to go to an evangelical/non-denominational church?” Well, I told her that I would still love her but I would neither condemn nor condone her decision. She then brings up her sister and brother-in-law and shows that THEY aren’t catholic and they are good people. Well, as you can imagine where this conversation was already headed. I then told her that THAT is wonderful for them but I speak the truth about our faith. Then she proceeds to claim that SHE TOO has the truth. Well, I asked her…“how do we know which truth is the real one?” after this its pretty blurry because I was starting to feel a little flustered.and then I told her that she was playing devils advocate. So then I told her “Even the devil can disguise himself as an angel of light” and She turns around and says “EXACTLY!! Thats what I wanted you to say” and she pretty much stops the topic after that. She proceeds to tell me that her question, that she asked God ,was basically answered when i said what I did. So I asked her “And what did you get from that?”“Nothing,” she said “I don’t have to tell you.” Well…after this I felt really agitated…but i left it alone.
I honestly feel that she is still very "liberal"(sorry, can’t think of a better adjective here) with her feeling regarding faith and religion. I still feel that she holds on to what she had gone through when she was younger. It wasn’t until she met me that I brought her “home”, or so I thought, to the catholic faith. But I feel all these years she’s just doing it out of obligation and she does not really believe the facts but rather relies on emotion as her affirmation that God is everywhere, which I don’t deny, but then why do I even bother? I honestly feel that she’d rather go to a non-denominational church because according to MY behavior, I’m a bad example of a catholic. Which turns out that she uses that excuse to say that everytime I point out evidence, history and facts of the one true church. I don’t know guys…Luke 12:51,52 feels alot liek what I’m going through and I feel completely down. Just wanted to share this with you. But as St. Paul says we must fight the good fight, even if its against loved ones. 😦 God bless you all.
 
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File it under Silence. If and when your son wishes to become a Catholic then both of you should let him decide as an adult. You teach through and by example and not by argument. You can not lead someone’s life for them no matter how good the intent is. Find peace.
 
MaryEstelle2, I have been silent in regards to my son. This is about my wife and I. She does not agree with me. As I have said, I do not condemn nor condone my sons decision. I still love him and as an adult, he has to make his own decisions. But, i will not agree to it. In regards to my relationship to my wife in regards to “truth,” there is a division between us. She claims she is in truth, and I know, through the gospels, teachings, history and facts that what I speak is truth. This is the rift between us and I refuse to base my faith on just sensatiolism and “giddy” feelings and proclaim that it is the Holy Spirit. It is much more than that. I feel like I’m being what my wife conisiders me a hateful catholic and I am not. Just because I disagree with her doesn’t mean that I don’t have God in me. It’s draining me especially since she refuses to speak to me about what God revealed to her because of my “Even the devil can disguise himself as an angel of light” remark.
 
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I honestly feel that she’d rather go to a non-denominational church because according to MY behavior, I’m a bad example of a catholic. Which turns out that she uses that excuse to say that everytime I point out evidence, history and facts of the one true church.
This sounds a lot like how Dr. David Anders discribes his marriage when he was converting to Catholicism. He just came out with a book. How the Catholic Church Saved my Marriage. I haven’t read it so I can’t really tell you if it will help or not.

Here’s a video of him talking about the book.

Just because I disagree with her doesn’t mean that I don’t have God in me. It’s draining me especially since she refuses to speak to me about what God revealed to her because of my “Even the devil can disguise himself as an angel of light” remark.
I am also having a harder time with my son leaving the faith than my wife. We don’t argue but it shuts her down when I speak about truth. I will admit it is partly my fault though because I am very passionate and energetic when I talk about something that excites me.

The only thing I would ask is who brought up the “topic” this morning?

I found that I need to try (and that is a very difficult try for me) to place my son in the hands of the Holy Spirit. He is an adult, did the ridiculous re-baptizing also, and I need to accept that it is not my call.

I wish I could share my pain with my wife but I suffer, alone, in my pain and anguish. Let us both try our best to give our pain up to God instead of trying to get our spouses to emphasize with what we are going through. I have just found that we are at different levels and hopefully some day she will catch up to what we can see.

God Bless
 
“The only thing I would ask is who brought up the “topic” this morning?”

I did…I spoke with her to let her know that I still love my son no matter what his decision is. I will not condemn it nor condone it…and it just took of from there.
 
Tread gently, sir. How long have you been married? Is this instance with your son the first time you have felt this division with your wife? She’s his mama and probably feeling very protective, to the point of disagreeing with you. My suggestion would be that you both talk to someone about this - a counselor, your priest, someone you both trust. She’s hurting.
 
Yes, I agree with you. It’s frightening but it happens nevertheless, all the times. How true is Jesus’ word.

We have to accept this reality. We can do as much. As a husband and a father we can only do our role and responsibilities accordingly in the family. In the end as far as religious belief is concerned, if those under our care stray from the faith, it is in fact already prophesied. We will feel sad about it but there’s nothing much that we can do except to love them all the same and to never give up to bring them back to the right path.

God bless.
 
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