Luther said he wanted to burn "all the Franciscan monks"!

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Eleve said:
Lutherans (obviously) don’t believe in the infallibility of the Catholic Church, though, so for them it’s just one fallible doctrine against another.
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A. What then, do you suppose “You *shall *know the truth” (Jn 8:32) means?

B. And are you aware that both Luther and Calvin certainly thought themselves God’s mouthpieces, and thus infallible?

D. What criterion do you use for judging a false teachers and false prophets?

"Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but underneath are ravenous wolves. Matt. 7:15

God bless.
“And do not deny free choice to Pharaoh because God says in many passages, I have hardened Pharaoh…”

“And for this reason God hardened Pharaoh’s heart by his just judgment, while Pharaoh himself hardened his heart by free choice.”
  • St. Augustine, Grace and Free Choice.
Answer to the Pelagians, Augustine, Roland J. Teske, John E Rotelle, Translated by Roland J. Teske, New City Press, 1999, pt. 1, v. 26, ISBN 1565481364, 9781565481367, p. 104.

books.google.com/books?id=YtEJ0nOL_IUC&pg=PA104&dq=%22not+deny+free+choice+to+Pharaoh+%22&lr=
 
Eleve said:
Lutherans (obviously) don’t believe in the infallibility of the Catholic Church, though, so for them it’s just one fallible doctrine against another.
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Actually, they don’t believe in the infallibiltiy of the CC, because of a false doctrine taught by a fallible church founded by Luther. 🙂

So, they believe that the CC is not protected from error because an imperfect church tells them so. But they are correct in believing that their church is not protected from error.
 
SemperReformada said:
Out of curiosity, why not lament various Catholics (layman, priests, bishops, and popes) who were scoundrels?
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🤷 Apparently wanting to burn people is worse than succeeding in doing so - as plenty of Popes did. If you are an Inquisitor, & succeed in burning people - you become **Saint **Pius V; or **Saint **Pedro Arbues; or various other Inquisitors, mostly beatified. Fail to burn anyone - & you become that miserable heretic, Martin Luther, with a price on your head & in danger of being burned yourself.​

Nothing succeeds like success, it seems 🙂

Catholics cannot complain about nasty Luther, while honouring those two characters as Saints: they both succeeded in killing others - which is more than Luther did. Or is wanting to kill, worse than having success in killing ? Neither wanting nor succeeding is a Christian attitude.
 
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