Lutherans: Why are the Following Rites not Sacraments?:

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steido01 said:
See, the problem with this is the same problem with my use of “lesser.”
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Not to be a busybody, but I imagine that if I were Lutheran that would bother me too.

Just like it would bother me if someone referred to the Minor Orders (e.g. reader and subdeacon) as “lesser orders”.
 
KjetilK said:
Yes, you can. You posit that God raises you. Nothing illogical by that.

The big question, really, is why you bother to take part in a discussion forum if you claim not to believe in basic laws of logic.
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In all my studies, I found no reason or logic that conclusively leads one to the idea that we live in anything other than a materialistic and deterministic world - entirely devoid of anything so much as a external actor let alone coming back from the dead after the atoms of the brain are separated. I share Kierkegaard’s reasoning about any such logical proofs that you may think you have found.

I’ll grant that you’re probably think you’re more clever than most, but for me only God can give my the gift of knowing we are secure in Christ Jesus.

As for your “big question” - I’ll posit that the laws of nature and strict logic leads to knowable and certain death. I’m not here for death.
 
Logic has nothing to do with the problems you mention. The problems lie in the premises. Logic is about the form of an argument.

But I guess it’s a good tool in arguing. Just say that logic doesn’t apply, and your debate partner has lost.
 
KjetilK said:
Logic is about the form of an argument.
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You’re hard line instance on bivalent logic translates well into binary logic - quite useful for computational devices.

Some of us are used to fuzzy logic and other forms that don’t exclude the middle, and others are well aquatinted with the Occam’s understanding that some truths are know only by God’s revelation.
 
benjohnson said:
You’re hard line instance on bivalent logic translates well into binary logic - quite useful for computational devices.

Some of us are used to fuzzy logic and other forms that don’t exclude the middle, and others are well aquatinted with the Occam’s understanding that some truths are know only by God’s revelation.
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And what, pray tell, has that to do with the validity of logic?
 
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