Malankara honouring and naming system

[Nestor_kea]

When I was going through different Malankara related webs in English, I started to be interested in “construction” of hierarchs’ names.

First point was about honouring system:

• bishop (eparch, auxiliary… any) ~ His Excellency,
• metropolitan ~ His Grace,
• catholicos ~ His Beautitude.
  Correct? If there is coadjutor archieparch (what would mean “coadjutor metropolitan”), then would he be His Excellency or Grace (or pre-Gace)?

Now to names. When I follow en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baselios_Cleemis_Thottunkal, I see:

• born: Isaac Thottunkal,
• protosyncellus (maybe also as priest): Aboon Isaac Cleemis,
• bishop (auxiliary): Isaac Mar Cleemis,
• catholicos: Moran Mor Baselios Cleemis.
  Putting Catholicos as the last element following the name I see as “local custom” (same as Francis Mar Papa) which does not need to be adopted in English because it is not of nature of English – catholicos / pope / … go before name in English. So, when looking into sequence above, it seems to me that since priest (or deacon? or minor orders?) he chose something like “ecclesiastical surname” Cleemis. This replaced his own surname but he continued with his own given name. Given name was altered when he became caholicos.
  But when looking properly in those “ecclesiastical surnames” (e. g. see this catholicate.net/Hierarchy%20home.html or this syromalankara.org/2014/01/02/the-syro-malankara-catholic-church-celebrated-the-feast-of-the-major-archbishop-catholicos-baselios-cardinal-cleemis/#sthash.euBDnfXc.dpbs), one can easily see they are names, not surnames. So how is it? Are these “something” seen as names? If so, why Mar goes between own given name and this? Or are these “something” functioning as surnames?
  In many languages Cardinal is placed between given/chosen names and surname. My impression is that Malankarans use form Baselios Card. Cleemis, so Cleemis is functioning as surname. But at the beginning of the conclave HB called himself in a little bit different way: Baselios Cleemis Card. Thottunkal (see e. g. this youtube.com/watch?v=cTtzyr5sBkc from 58:43). So he himself used Cleemis as name, not surname, and used his own surname Thottunkal as surname.

So, how is it? Are there “ecclesiastical surnames”? Is using own surname inappropriate? If so, what with conclave? If not, what with the official web completely omitting them? And HB is:
a) Baselios Card. Cleemis,
b) Baselios Card. Cleemis Thottunkal,
c) Baselios Cleemis Card. Thottunkal?
Or even d)-f) Baselios Isaac…?

By the way, why are bishops Isaac mAr Cleemis and not mOr, – catholicos is mOran mOr. Or why bishops who are mAr do not have catholicos mAran mAr or at least mOran mAr? If mOr with O is more honourable, why the Pope is Mar Papa and not Mor Papa?

Why is catholicos titled as Moran Mor Baselios Cleemis and not Moran Baselios Mor/Mar Cleemis? The second possibility would seem to be more consistent (and “asking” for mAr and not mOr in the middle).

If I am not mistaken, Mar is East Syrian and Mor is West Syrian, so I would expect Mor amongst Malankara community. Is there any reason to have combined system? Are there reasons for mAr bishops and mOr catholicoi and not vice verse?

Thank you for answers, information, corrections.

 

[Celticnovice]

I have wondered this exact question. Although I don’t know the answer, I’m sure many posters here do. So in the meantime I will return to