Mandatory Marriage Counseling?

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Hi everyone, I have some questions about getting your marriage “blessed” in the church, and about my parish priest.
In the past months I have been coming back to the church with a great desire to live for god and receive the sacraments, but like many, I’ve hit the huge roadblock of being married outside of the church. I was told by my priest that “if all goes well we can get you confirmed by Easter,” and after looking online I realized that this is sort of the “cookie cutter procedure.” He told me that there is a mandatory 6 month “marriage preparation course” in which my husband and I need to meet him and do counseling.

Here’s the issue:
My husband just got a job and works 6 days a week doing manual labor, and I am a full time pre-med student. We could meet on Sunday but the priest says he’s busy, and Monday is his day off. My marriage is already strained because we are in great financial stress, and living off of $3000 financial aid that I get every 5 months, and will have to apply for food stamps soon. We are living with my father who is also in 300,000 dollars of debt and is a gambling addict. Not to mention my husband is very nonreligious and is not exactly enthusiastic of the idea of sitting down with a priest weekly when he really “doesn’t want to be a part of it.”

I feel that the priest is maybe just “going through the motions” and not seeing the stress that this is creating on our marriage. I am very eager to be a part of the church and it seems like this approach is forcing me to view my husband as an enemy and a block to my goals. Is there anything that says we must go through this counseling? Given our situation could we shorten the time-frame down at all?

Also Priest as a spiritual adviser:
My parish priest does not seem very interested in my spiritual journey. I have been away from the church since I was a child, I would expect a little more nurturing than this. He doesn’t want to meet with me unless my husband’s coming, and seems annoyed by my questions about the gospel and doctrine. We’ve spoken 3 times, and none of the times was he open to speaking about my experiences thus far, or giving me advice to grow my faith, scriptures I should study and think about, etc. It’s just “down to business” with this whole counseling then RCIA at this date/that date.

Do you think that this view is echoed by most Fathers or did I just catch one who’s uninterested and stuck in the movements? Should I think about talking to another parish’s priest who is more open-minded? Is there any quote that says this counseling is mandatory, or is he just pushing this on us because it’s the norm?
Thanks.
 
Hi everyone, I have some questions about getting your marriage “blessed” in the church, and about my parish priest.
In the past months I have been coming back to the church with a great desire to live for god and receive the sacraments, but like many, I’ve hit the huge roadblock of being married outside of the church. I was told by my priest that “if all goes well we can get you confirmed by Easter,” and after looking online I realized that this is sort of the “cookie cutter procedure.” He told me that there is a mandatory 6 month “marriage preparation course” in which my husband and I need to meet him and do counseling.

Here’s the issue:
My husband just got a job and works 6 days a week doing manual labor, and I am a full time pre-med student. We could meet on Sunday but the priest says he’s busy, and Monday is his day off. My marriage is already strained because we are in great financial stress, and living off of $3000 financial aid that I get every 5 months, and will have to apply for food stamps soon. We are living with my father who is also in 300,000 dollars of debt and is a gambling addict. Not to mention my husband is very nonreligious and is not exactly enthusiastic of the idea of sitting down with a priest weekly when he really “doesn’t want to be a part of it.”

I feel that the priest is maybe just “going through the motions” and not seeing the stress that this is creating on our marriage. I am very eager to be a part of the church and it seems like this approach is forcing me to view my husband as an enemy and a block to my goals. Is there anything that says we must go through this counseling? Given our situation could we shorten the time-frame down at all?

Also Priest as a spiritual adviser:
My parish priest does not seem very interested in my spiritual journey. I have been away from the church since I was a child, I would expect a little more nurturing than this. He doesn’t want to meet with me unless my husband’s coming, and seems annoyed by my questions about the gospel and doctrine. We’ve spoken 3 times, and none of the times was he open to speaking about my experiences thus far, or giving me advice to grow my faith, scriptures I should study and think about, etc. It’s just “down to business” with this whole counseling then RCIA at this date/that date.

Do you think that this view is echoed by most Fathers or did I just catch one who’s uninterested and stuck in the movements? Should I think about talking to another parish’s priest who is more open-minded? Is there any quote that says this counseling is mandatory, or is he just pushing this on us because it’s the norm?
Thanks.
I think you should probably find another priest who is more willing to work around your schedule. Given your difficult situation, I would actually encourage you, as much as possible, to try and stick to the marriage counseling sessions because they very well may help you and your husband find ways to help each other through these difficult times. It would not help for you (or the priest) to see these merely as hoops to jump through or duties to “get over with.” A good priest should help you with that.

But also consider:
Does your parish priest know your situation at all and why it is so difficult to schedule? Could the parish office recommend someone else to be a spiritual advisor or do they have faith formation classes in addition to RCIA that might work for you? Is it possible that your priest is bogged down by other commitments (which could make anyone frustrated) and in a few weeks will be able to discuss these issues with you more fully? Three times (in person or just by phone?) isn’t always enough to get to know a person’s personality or get a good “read” on them. 🙂
 
The bishop establishes the marriage prep requirements for his diocese. Yes, marriage prep is typically 6 months and is for those seeking convalidation as well.

That said, there are certainly flexibility in how the process works.

But, if the priest has a large parish or many responsibilities he may simply be stretched too thin to make individual accommodations. See if there are other options in the area.
 
The bishop establishes the marriage prep requirements for his diocese. Yes, marriage prep is typically 6 months and is for those seeking convalidation as well.

That said, there are certainly flexibility in how the process works.

But, if the priest has a large parish or many responsibilities he may simply be stretched too thin to make individual accommodations. See if there are other options in the area.
He said that maybe we will be able to do “Online” counseling because of our schedules. I don’t know about “stretched too thin”, it is an extremely small parish (probably 30-50 people on a regular Sunday.) I think I will check outside at least for Spiritual Guidance.
 
He said that maybe we will be able to do “Online” counseling because of our schedules. I don’t know about “stretched too thin”, it is an extremely small parish (probably 30-50 people on a regular Sunday.) I think I will check outside at least for Spiritual Guidance.
It could be that he has other responsibilities outside the parish as well - I would be surprised if a Catholic priest was only responsible for one parish of that size.
 
He said that maybe we will be able to do “Online” counseling because of our schedules. I don’t know about “stretched too thin”, it is an extremely small parish (probably 30-50 people on a regular Sunday.) I think I will check outside at least for Spiritual Guidance.
Since you live in a heavily populated area, I suggest checking out some of the large parishes near you. It doesn’t sound like you are looking for spiritual guidance as much as someone to help you get caught up in the Church. Many larger parishes have programs for returning Catholics. If you haven’t been to Chuch since you were a child, maybe an adult Confirmation class would be a good place to start. Even if you get Confirmed in your own parish, the fellowship of a group of adult Catholics learning about the faith together might be good for you.

I too attend a small parish and it is easy for the priest to get stretched too thin. In a small parish, the pastor ends up doing everything from atending diocisan meetings to scheduling the guy to clean the A/C ducts. 🙂
 
Pre Cana or pre marriage prep is usually just a 5 or 6 week session or it can be done over a weekend or even in two on or two all day sessions in our diocese. Unless there are major problems I have never heard of 6 months of marriage counseling. Also, I would be concerned about a priest doing marriage counseling unless he has a degree in therapy or social work.

I have heard of priests holding off on witnessing a marriage until a couple has undergone some sort of counseling but that was only for those who are not married yet. Since you are married and just seek convalidation I don’t know why he is putting this extra burden on you.

I would seek another priest.
 
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