Margaret Sanger

[utunumsint]

So I’ve been reading Margaret Sanger’s “The Pivot of Civilization”.

groups.csail.mit.edu/mac/users/rauch/abortion_eugenics/sanger/

Has anyone read this?

My initial toughts on this book are as follows:

1-It seems to me that she felt that contraception and abortion were the only way to aleviate the social problems of extreme poverty. She focused a great deal on the plight of the immagrents in the States, and their working conditions in factories, having child after child, with extremely high mortality rates.

2-She also focused on their lack of education. And how being in a large family keep kids from reaching their full potential, because parents can’t afford to send their kids to school, or even properly care for their material needs.

3-She emphasised that the sexual urge was completely overpowering, and this was the reason why people have so many children.

4-She divided people into two camps, the intelligent, feminist, and socially superior class that favoured contraception and abortion versus, the patriarcal, authoritarian, uneducated class that argued for unfettered, uncontrolled, and unreasonning procreation. In this group she includes the Catholic Church, and also Marxists, since they encouraged large families as helping the progress of social revolution (at least in her days).

This seems to be an accurate summary of our society today. People have bought into these arguments.

I’ve come to the conclusion that having a large family is a luxury that only the rich can afford. The people in my circles (speaking from my own experience) who are able to do it successfully have very wealthy husbands providing for them. I myself can barely afford the house we live in and the three kids we are raising. The only way we can keep financially afloat is for my wife to get a job.

Which leads me to the conclusion that the financial prosperity that we in North America have lived through so far has come at the price of unfettered contraception and abortion. We have literally sacrificed children to the alter of economic prosperity.

From this it follows that now that we have a declining population and a huge number of elderly people who will put a massive strain on the health care system, society will continue to deal with the problem as they have done originally: through eugenics. The elderly will increasingly be euthenized, either implicitly or explicitly. Instead of abortion mills, we will have euthanasia mills, or both.

Does anyone have anything to add? Where is the hope for the future here?

God bless,
Ut

 

[the_phoenix]

Here are a couple of quotes from Margaret Sanger. I apologize that they are absolutely disgusting:

"We are failing to segregate morons who are increasing and multiplying . . . a dead weight of human waste . . .an ever-increasing spawning class of human beings who never should have been born at all.”

and

“The most merciful thing that a family does to one of its infant members is to kill it.”

Ick. Truly evil.

Best thing we can do is strive for holiness in our own lives, pray, do penance, and vote pro-life. And as for hope, the theme of the Pope’s last visit to the United States was “Christ Our Hope.”

 

[edwest2]

Dividing people, especially mothers and fathers, has been the goal of the radical feminists for 40 years. For kids, the formula is simple: convince them to have lots of sex, and when contraception fails, convince them to have abortions to get rid of the problem.

The answer to all this exists: For Catholics, restore the family, restore commitment, restore intergenerational ties with relatives so that the elderly of your own family are loved and cared for, and so that relatives help one another in times of end.

Sadly, when human beings are reduced to utilitarian things, it becomes easier to treat them as things, especially when their lifetime earning potential has been realized. They become things to be put to death when their usefulness or utilitarian value ends.

That is the fruit of utilitarian revolution – death.

God bless,
Ed

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[utunumsint]

Here are a couple of quotes from Margaret Sanger. I apologize that they are absolutely disgusting:

"We are failing to segregate morons who are increasing and multiplying . . . a dead weight of human waste . . .an ever-increasing spawning class of human beings who never should have been born at all.”

and

“The most merciful thing that a family does to one of its infant members is to kill it.”

Ick. Truly evil.

Best thing we can do is strive for holiness in our own lives, pray, do penance, and vote pro-life. And as for hope, the theme of the Pope’s last visit to the United States was “Christ Our Hope.”

It is disgusting and frightening at the same time. The entire sexual revolution is peredicated on Sanger’s contraceptive and abortive mentality. She claims that it is because patriarchal Catholic have bought into a mechanistic view of the female reproductive function, that all this suffering exists, and the women are relagated to the position of baby making machines. But what she has really done is turned women into sexual pornographic material for men, who can now view them as consequence free sexual candy. Thus she debases sex by removing (murdering) all consequences for the sexual act.

What is worse is that our culture is addicted to their consequence free sex, and the material prosperity that this constant destruction of human life has produced. It is a virtual altar to Moloch and Cemosh that our civilization has spawnd.

God bless,
Ut

 

[Newbie2]

I think the views of M. Sanger are those of an evil, hateful person. The arrogance of her position is unbelivable…poor=unworthy.

Good thing our Lord thinks differently.

 

[utunumsint]

Dividing people, especially mothers and fathers, has been the goal of the radical feminists for 40 years. For kids, the formula is simple: convince them to have lots of sex, and when contraception fails, convince them to have abortions to get rid of the problem.

The answer to all this exists: For Catholics, restore the family, restore commitment, restore intergenerational ties with relatives so that the elderly of your own family are loved and cared for, and so that relatives help one another in times of end.

Sadly, when human beings are reduced to utilitarian things, it becomes easier to treat them as things, especially when their lifetime earning potential has been realized. They become things to be put to death when their usefulness or utilitarian value ends.

That is the fruit of utilitarian revolution – death.

God bless,
Ed

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My wife’s father has struggled with MS for the last twenty years of his life. He is a constant reminder to her and to me of the value of those who are considered useless by society. His presence, although a burden, has value to our family, and to his wife. The progressivly limited scope of his ability to do even the most practical things has not removed his self respect and positive attitude, although I am sure his suffering is great. His prayers and moral support in times of adversity have been termendous.

But you are right Ed. For our society today, it comes down to your economic usefulness, and not in the intrinsic worth of each the human person created in the image and likeness of God.

Genesis 9

5 For your own lifeblood, too, I will demand an accounting: from every animal I will demand it, and from man in regard to his fellow man I will demand an accounting for human life. 6 If anyone sheds the blood of man, by man shall his blood be shed; For in the image of God has man been made. 7 Be fertile, then, and multiply; abound on earth and subdue it."

 

[edwest2]

Thank you for your reply. All of us will undergo some suffering in our lives. The Good Samaritan helped a total stranger, and I worked in a hospital helping total strangers. If we all become total strangers, who will help us?

Love your neighbor as yourself.

God bless,
Ed

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[JimG]

Ironically, the acceptance of Sanger’s views lead to economic stagnation and recession, as a result of an inevitably aging population due to massive contraception and abortion. A population with many young people means more workers, a larger tax base, more shoppers and consumers, greater sales, economic prosperity.

Look at the small towns throughout the country. When they begin to lose population, they shrink and die. The same thing will happen to the country as a whole, as it depopulates.

Mom and Dad both working merely feeds the inflation cycle, driving up prices. What used to be affordable on one income alone (what Rerum Novarum called a living wage) now requires two. No net gain.

 

[utunumsint]

Ironically, the acceptance of Sanger’s views lead to economic stagnation and recession, as a result of an inevitably aging population due to massive contraception and abortion. A population with many young people means more workers, a larger tax base, more shoppers and consumers, greater sales, economic prosperity.

Look at the small towns throughout the country. When they begin to lose population, they shrink and die. The same thing will happen to the country as a whole, as it depopulates.

Mom and Dad both working merely feeds the inflation cycle, driving up prices. What used to be affordable on one income alone (what Rerum Novarum called a living wage) now requires two. No net gain.

Your right. The baby boomers were the last non contracepted generation. They all heavily contracepted and aborted, allowing for mothers to re-enter the workforce early. Having fewer kids to be financially responsible for leads them to feel entitled to the riches they accumulate. But because there are so few kids to support them in their old age, or to support the heath care system that they will need, or to support a government that continues to up taxes, you’ll get economic melt down. Add to this the fact that during their generation, both the US and Canada have pilled up unprecedented amounts of debt. Who do you think has to pay for that debt?

Its hard to imagine a more short sited approach to prosperity.

God bless,
Ut