Marijuana legalized in washington state?

[Adamski]

So if we can use alcohol in modernization according to church teachings if pot is legal in Washington state after November is there anything wrong with using it in small amounts of moderation ? ?

 

[jediliz]

why would you WANT to use it? Would it help your prayer life? Would it help you focus more? If you were with Jesus, would you use it in front of HIM?

 

[TheRealJuliane]

So if we can use alcohol in modernization according to church teachings if pot is legal in Washington state after November is there anything wrong with using it in small amounts of moderation ? ?

If the legislation is for “medical marijuana,” and you have no specific medical need for it, then you will still be breaking the law if you use it to get high with no medical need.

 

[George_Stegmeir]

There is a big difference in the recreational use of Marijuana and Alcohol. One can imbibe various kinds of alcoholic beveridges to enjoy the flavor without getting drunk or even high.
One can smoke tobacco to enjoy its flavor, as one does in smoking a cigar or a pipe. However, no one smokes marijuana for its flavor or aroma, without the expectation of getting high (intoxicated). And, as Catholics, we know that any type of intoxication is wrong.
With respect to the medicinal use of marijuana, one does not injest it to get high. One usually uses it to counteract certain adverse effects of other medications taken for cancer or opthamalic problems. So there is no sin involved.
Apart from legitimate medical usage, there is no licit reason for ingesting “weed” no matter what falacious arguments one can present. You are just kidding yourself by making excuses.

 

[CountrySteve]

Personally, when i’d smoke, it made me soooooo lazy, so therefore id be sinning even more by commiting sloth, so no, i would say it would still be a sin

 

[FaithInTheSon]

why would you WANT to use it? Would it help your prayer life? Would it help you focus more? If you were with Jesus, would you use it in front of HIM?

If that’s the logic you apply to everything you do in life then you have faith most don’t ever attain so please understand that when talking to them to improve your fishing skills.

If you must use it do so in moderation. It is not a sin itself but leads to sins. Also smoking it could be considered a sin but there are other ways to use it.

Sinful = maybe
Leads a large amount of people to sin = YES (along with many things… some good some bad)
best advice = Only use if needed medically. Other wise you are opening yourself up to sin even if the use of it is not in itself a sin.

Flip the coin and God turns everything the devil uses against us against him lol it is a funny thing to witness. That doesn’t mean it wont count against us though and it also doesn’t mean it was necessary.

I don’t smoke it but I know people who used to smoke it a lot so I am quite familiar with how it affects people. If it’s between weed and any other mind altering substance or cigarettes then go with the weed it’s the lesser evil that is 100% for sure. You probably don’t actually need any of it though you only need faith.

EDIT: Don’t take this post the wrong way I don’t condone the use of marijuana for recreational purposes but I realize people are the farthest thing from perfect and sometimes minimizing damage is the key. Some lives are harder to live than others.

 

[Adamski]

1. it is going to be legal for non medical reasons
2. it will be regulated for strength just like alcohol so you could have just a little unlike the unregulated illegall kind
3. I don’t smoke, (it would break the law) and don’t think I would
4. since we can drink 3 drinks morally if it’s legal why can’t we have just a little pot (I don’t see the difference)
5. what do catholics do in the Netherlands about this
6. I would see it to be a mortal sin to be a drunk but not a sin to have a drink

This is more of moral excersise

 

[LaSainte]

There is a big difference in the recreational use of Marijuana and Alcohol. One can imbibe various kinds of alcoholic beveridges to enjoy the flavor without getting drunk or even high.
One can smoke tobacco to enjoy its flavor, as one does in smoking a cigar or a pipe. However, no one smokes marijuana for its flavor or aroma, without the expectation of getting high (intoxicated). And, as Catholics, we know that any type of intoxication is wrong.
With respect to the medicinal use of marijuana, one does not injest it to get high. One usually uses it to counteract certain adverse effects of other medications taken for cancer or opthamalic problems. So there is no sin involved.
Apart from legitimate medical usage, there is no licit reason for ingesting “weed” no matter what falacious arguments one can present. You are just kidding yourself by making excuses.

I don’t believe it is the Catholic Church’s position that ANY type of intoxication is wrong. Being intoxicated to the point where you lose your sense of reason and cannot distinguish right from wrong is where the sin lies. That and if you get intoxicated every day to the detriment of your health and other aspects of your life. But getting tipsy, singing and laughing louder than normal, feeling the effects of a legal substance that is not doing any permanent damage to your health? If this is wrong, I know a LOT of priests who are in big trouble. Remember, people called Jesus a drunkard- so chances are, He liked to have a few glasses of strong wine and relax with His homies.

 

[George_Stegmeir]

I don’t believe it is the Catholic Church’s position that ANY type of intoxication is wrong. Being intoxicated to the point where you lose your sense of reason and cannot distinguish right from wrong is where the sin lies. That and if you get intoxicated every day to the detriment of your health and other aspects of your life. But getting tipsy, singing and laughing louder than normal, feeling the effects of a legal substance that is not doing any permanent damage to your health? If this is wrong, I know a LOT of priests who are in big trouble. Remember, people called Jesus a drunkard- so chances are, He liked to have a few glasses of strong wine and relax with His homies.

I don’t know where you got your religious training, but you are 5000% WRONG about intentional intoxication not being a sin. Not only is it a sin, but it is a Mortal sin. Just ask any priest, or you can enter examination of conscience oon any search engine and log on to one of those sites. You will find they all include willful intoxication as a mortal sin!

 

[LaSainte]

Wrong.

catholicreference.net/index.cfm?id=33231

Notice how high the threshold is for grave matter. You must either INTEND or FORESEE that you will lose your senses or be unable to distinguish right from wrong. If this happens anyway, but it is unintentional or unforeseen, it is venial.

What do you think was going on at Cana anyway? They drank ALL the wine, which was much stronger then than it is now. Did Jesus respond by telling everyone they were going to hell? No. He made MORE.

It drives me nuts when laypeople presume to place burdens on us that the Church does not.