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My husband keeps asking for improper intimate relations. He knows that it sinful, but he doen’t care. He gets angry and cold when I deny him. He does not practice the faith. I returned after a long absence. How do I make him understand that I’m not rejecting him?
 
My husband keeps asking for improper intimate relations. He knows that it sinful, but he doen’t care. He gets angry and cold when I deny him. He does not practice the faith. I returned after a long absence. How do I make him understand that I’m not rejecting him?
Boy, that’s a tough situation!

It’s clear, I think, that this is going to be a problem for you two, so if you haven’t already, sit him down and lay out the ground rules going forward. If it helps, give him some material to read; there is a very good reason why the Catholic Church prescribes what it prescribes re: sexual morality, it’s not just arbitrary mandates from on high. (A book on natural law theory might help here).

If that doesn’t work, consider setting up a meeting between the two of you and a marriage counselor, or (even better) a priest.
 
My husband keeps asking for improper intimate relations. He knows that it sinful, but he doen’t care. He gets angry and cold when I deny him. He does not practice the faith. I returned after a long absence. How do I make him understand that I’m not rejecting him?
I don’t think you can make him understand completely. However when you’re on periods of abstainence and need to abstain and he’s abstaining with you, make sure to really appreciate him during that time. My husband is completely orthodox in his faith but it can be very hard on him. So thank him everday and try to be less critical of him during that period of abstinence.
 
Sorry, it must be so distressing for you, and well done for standing up to him and standing up for your Faith. Think there are two points for you to consider here:
  1. “Improper” - The Church has definite teachings on what is gravely sinful in the marriage bed. I suggest you speak to a priest as soon as possible, you need sound advice and support right now!
  1. Respect - Your husband is not showing any respect for you, and is treating you like an ‘object’. This is of concern, as the marriage act should be one of love and mutual giving of self.
It seems that you are in for a hard time and will need lots of support until he gets over this selfish phase. Only God’s grace will get you both through this, so pray for him and for the strength to resist.

A good prayer for purity is:
Three Hail Mary’s in honor of the Immaculate Conception of Our Lady followed by
three “O Mary conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.”
 
I could be wrong on this, if i am i hope somebody smarter then me sets me right, if the act finishes properly then you can engage in foreplay that would be wrong to complete. I hope that was clear, i was trying to be discrete.😊
 
I could be wrong on this, if i am i hope somebody smarter then me sets me right, if the act finishes properly then you can engage in foreplay that would be wrong to complete. I hope that was clear, i was trying to be discrete.😊
Even in foreplay acts may be done that are definite and objective "wrongs’, therefore sinful either venially or mortally.

It cannot be simplified to think that ‘anything goes’ as long as the act is completed as it should be. This outlook has been promoted in recent years, mostly due to the errors of Christopher West, who has obtained much publicity by his ‘radical’ oversimplification in this regard. Here is an article from Catholic News Agency:
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Renowned moral theologian weighs-in on Theology of the Body debate**
Rome, Italy, Jul 3, 2009 / 02:33 pm (CNA).- Fr. Maurizio Faggioni, OFM, a professor at the top pontifical institute for moral theology, the Pontifical Academy “Alphonsianum,” said in a recent interview with Catholic News Agency that the teachings of the Church suggest “far more prudence” in approaching some of the issues raised by Christopher West in his presentation of the Theology of the Body.

Faggioni, a Franciscan who teaches at the Alphonsianum, an academy named upon the father of modern Moral theology, St. Alphonsus of Liguori, is one of the most consulted moral theologians and is an advisor to several Vatican dicasteries.

In a conversation with CNA, Fr. Faggioni explained that some of the issues discussed publicly by West, such as the appropriateness of anal sex or other forms of sexual “foreplay” in married relationships, have to be dealt with using great care, since “the risk is of displacing the attention from marital love and the anthropologic meaning of lovely gestures to merely the genital aspects.”

“Sexuality,” Fr. Faggioni said, launching into his analysis of West’s presentation of the Theology of the Body, “is the language of love and this language is authentic only when it is respectful of the meaning of human love.”

According to the moral theologian, “the traditional moral theology certainly does not prohibit intimacy among spouses, but it never regards them as a substitute for the marital embrace and accepts intimacy only as a path toward a complete sexual union.”

Moreover, Fr. Faggioni said that “it is simply not true that the traditional Catholic moral supports the use of acts that Thomas Aquinas call contra naturam -against nature- (such as anal sex) as something ordinary.”

“Catholic moral theology calls us to be very discrete in discussing these issues, and encourages being particularly respectful to the sensibilities of persons and couples,” the Italian Franciscan explained.

“Regarding this type of intercourse or others, no one can pretend to accept from another person something that offends that person’s sensibility on sexual issues or that does not respect the structure and natural complementarity of the bodies of man and woman.”

The moral theologian warned that “today’s youth, in a special manner, have to be protected from unnecessary exposure to sexual-genital issues that can lead to a morbid curiosity.”

“This is not prudishness, but the wisdom of the Church that has time and again demonstrated the importance of discretion and prudence when it comes to sexual issues,” he added.

“When we make these types of assertions in an indiscriminate manner, we are actually getting into the beds of married couples, and that is something the moral teaching of the Church does not encourage at all.”

Regarding the practice of blessing the genitals before a sexual relationship, Fr. Faggioni expressed “real perplexity.” “Without doubt, all the body in each one of its parts is God’s creation and deserves honor. We precisely respect our private parts by surrounding them with greater respect and modesty.”

“In itself,” he continued, “nothing forbids thanking God for the sexual body of oneself or the spouse, but from the perspective of Christian anthropology, it is not right to emphasize the genitals as if our sexuality could be reduced to them.

“Love is made with all the body, with the entire person’s humanity, not only with the genitals.”

Fr. Faggioni also explained that Pope John Paul never intended to specifically address the sexual Puritanism of the United States. “Pope John Paul wanted to distance himself equally from the moral relativism that trivializes sex, as much as from the Puritanism that considers sex as taboo,” he explained.

The late Pope, the moral theologian also said “exalted the beauty of the body and sexuality, but also taught that the body cannot be used as an instrument, as if it would not be the bearer of a meaning and values that man and woman are called to embrace and live with gratefulness and fidelity,” he said on ending
 
I could be wrong on this, if i am i hope somebody smarter then me sets me right, if the act finishes properly then you can engage in foreplay that would be wrong to complete. I hope that was clear, i was trying to be discrete.😊
I think that the foreplay has to be acceptable to both parties.
 
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