Mark 16:5,6-Help me please!

[godsent]

Entering into the tomb, they saw a young man sitting on the right side, dressed in a white robe, and they were amazed.

And he saith unto them, Be not affrighted: Ye seek Jesus of Nazareth, which was crucified: he is risen; he is not here: behold the place where they laid him.

In these passages,it doesn’t say he was reserected,just he had risen,were they talking about just being risen in the sense of rescusitated?..or sleeping,or coma?

Did he definately die before he went into the tomb and did he resserect from the dead?

 

[Genesis315]

godsent:

Did he definately die before he went into the tomb and did he resserect from the dead?

Yes, He definitely died. A soldier shoved a spear through His side into His heart, remember? Plus, a Crucifixion could not be survived. When you’re nailed up like that your lungs get forced into the exhale postition. Then the only way to breathe is to push up with your feet. After a short time, exhustion sets in and you die of asfixiation. Plus the Roman soldiers were professionals at this kind of thing. They woldn’t let someone survive and go home.

 

[Scott_Waddell]

Technically this passage alone does not prove he died in the sense of a proof text. I get the sense that you have either read or encountered a non-Trinitarian. Correct?

Scott

 

[whowantsumadebo]

Seriously,
Mark 15:37–And Jesus, having cried out with a loud voice, gave up the ghost.

Mark is completely explicit in stating that Jesus had died.

 

[awalt]

As another point to consider, it’s a big part of the meaning of the Apostles’ Creed, “HE descended into Hell”, the apostles saying He died. If you check the CCC you will see the specific Bible references that back this up.

One of many:
For I delivered to you as of first importance what I also received, that Christ died for our sins in accordance with the scriptures, 4 that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day in accordance with the scriptures, 5 and that he appeared to Cephas, then to the twelve. 6 Then he appeared to more than five hundred brethren at one time, most of whom are still alive, though some have fallen asleep. 7 Then he appeared to James, then to all the apostles. 8 Last of all, as to one untimely born, he appeared also to me. 9 For I am the least of the apostles, unfit to be called an apostle, because I persecuted the church of God. 10 But by the grace of God I am what I am, and his grace toward me was not in vain. On the contrary, I worked harder than any of them, though it was not I, but the grace of God which is with me. 11 Whether then it was I or they, so we preach and so you believed. (1 Co 15:3).

 

[TOME]

Concerning your question about Mark 16, I think the other post presented the fact that Jesus did die quite well with the NT references and the reference to the Apostles Creed. Each of these expressed the fact (not opinion nor rumor) that Jesus had died on the cross,and we find the fact of Jesus’ death in the other Gospels,attested to in Acts and the Letters of the NT.

I think some of your difficulties about the words Resurrection and Risen might be answered by considering the Voice and Tense they are written in. Voice being either Passive, such as He was Resurrected - stresses God’s Activity and Acceptance of Jesus, in His Humanity, Paschal Sacrifice. To say He resurrected, expresses in the Active Voice of Christ’s activity.

The tense the angel uses to say He is Risen, express that fact that of a past activity viz, the Resurrection had taken place, But the nature of the Resurrection has an eternal dimension, therefore,
the Resurrection is an on going reality.

Also, Christ Resurrection was not a rescusitation as were Lazuruz and the son of the widow from Naim. When these two were brought back to life, their bodies and their bodily were restored not transformed.

On the other hand, Jesus’ Resurrected body was glorified and truely transformed. It was not subject to time or space (as were the two mentioned above, as well as the young girl Jesus raised from the dead) brought out in 1Cor, where Paul states He appeared to 500 at once. Also, those closes to Him did not recognize Him (Mary Magdeline at the tomb, the two on their way to Emmaus) until He chose to reveal Himself. And we have Jesus sudden appearence to the Apostles in the upper room which locked at the time. Christ’s was a true Resurrection.