Why are you asking me what that means? What does it mean to you? In order to be validly married in the CHURCH, the CHURCH requires one to be “OPEN TO LIFE” and all acts have the be “ORDERED TOWARD PROCREATION”. That’s all the CHURCH requires of us. Marrying after menopause is NOT A DETRIMENT according to the CHURCH. So why are you asking me whether or not I agree with what another poster said, when I have stated a teaching of the CHURCH?What does “definitive reason” mean?
I was asking you your understanding of the word “definitive” (in this context), because (in Post #16) you stated that you do agree that “procreation is the definitive reason for marriage”. Here is the post by Maxirad where he postulated that:Why are you asking me what that means? What does it mean to you? In order to be validly married in the CHURCH, the CHURCH requires one to be “OPEN TO LIFE” and all acts have the be “ORDERED TOWARD PROCREATION”. That’s all the CHURCH requires of us. Marrying after menopause is NOT A DETRIMENT according to the CHURCH. So why are you asking me whether or not I agree with what another poster said, when I have stated a teaching of the CHURCH?
And here you agreed (see bolded piece):Originally posted by Maxirad
Is it true that postmenopausal women who are legitimately single cannot get married in the Catholic Church in most cases? After all, isn’t procreation the definitive reason for marriage?
It is because I **do **know the prerequisites to valid marriage, and that post-menopausal persons, infertile couples, etc. can be married, that I asked you about the meaning you attach to “definitive”.Originally posted by Rence
No, your first statement is not true. And your second sentence is true, but doesn’t mean postmenopausal women can’t get married. Yes, they can get married. In fact, due to circumstances, that’s probably what I will do …
You didn’t upset me, I just don’t understand why you keep asking what you’re asking after I have stated the teachings of the Church regarding marriage and post-menopausal women. You’re right, procreation is a reason for marriage, not the “definitive” reason, if by definitive you mean “only”. Procreation is the intent, the end-result, of marriage. Maybe the OP might have used those words instead of “definitive”. But the Church only requires one be open to that intent or end result. One isn’t even required by the Church to actually purposefully try to get pregnant, just be open and accepting when and if it happens. The Church considers children to be the ‘crowning glory’ of marriage. And despite some here who suggest it might be sinful to try to NOT become pregnant (even by using licit means), the fact is, the Church calls couples “generous” when they have a child. But is still isn’t the only reason to get married.I was asking you your understanding of the word “definitive” (in this context), because (in Post #16) you stated that you do agree that “procreation is the definitive reason for marriage”. Here is the post by Maxirad where he postulated that:
And here you agreed (see bolded piece):
It is because I **do **know the prerequisites to valid marriage, and that post-menopausal persons, infertile couples, etc. can be married, that I asked you about the meaning you attach to “definitive”.
I suggest procreation is a reason for marriage, not “the definitive reason”.
I did not seek to upset you, and apologise if I have done so.