Married again is there eucharist

[jbuttrey]

Can we start a society for lonliey people who want to remain single after divorce for their children or want to live with their new spouse continent for the sake of previous children. What is the churches position will the unapproved remarried then get the eucharist.

What do you think?

jbuttrey

 

[puzzleannie]

do not understand the question, I am answering what I think is your concern:

anyone who is divorced but has not remarried or is not cohabiting need merely go to confession and receive communion as usual.

before a divorced person can remarry his first marriage must be investigated by the canon law tribunal of the diocese to determine if it was valid at its inception. Unless and until a decree of nullity is issued, that person is not free to marry again. If a person has remarried after divorce, without annulment, and his former spouse is still living, he is objectively in a state of mortal sin, for which he should seek pastoral counselling at once from the priest, and may not receive communion until the situation is rectified. He or she may, on the direction of the priest, refrain from marital relations until the marriage can be convalidated, in which case, with his permission, they may receive communion.

I have no idea what you mean by “for the sake of the children”.

 

[Br.Rich_SFO]

Can we start a society for lonliey people who want to remain single after divorce for their children or want to live with their new spouse continent for the sake of previous children. What is the churches position will the unapproved remarried then get the eucharist.

What do you think?

jbuttrey

I feel for those in the difficult position they find themselves in, unable to access the Sacraments.

 

[jbuttrey]

I feel for those in the difficult position they find themselves in, unable to access the Sacraments.

That is the problem, what I’m wondering is can we find out if they were to live as brother and sister after a broken first marriage is valid but the other spouse has divorced them. Or the other spouse may have died but the person wants to remain single for the children’s sake.

We have this problem in part because there aren’t enough grand children to be a time filling vocation for the single grand parents.

They could join a religious order like the house with males and females who run our marian center but some can’t.

The other options are possibly church work, but what are some of the things lay people can do.

jbuttrey

 

[mom2three]

That is the problem, what I’m wondering is can we find out if they were to live as brother and sister after a broken first marriage is valid but the other spouse has divorced them. Or the other spouse may have died but the person wants to remain single for the children’s sake.

If a couple lives as brother and sister, due to a previous marriage declared as valid by the Church, I think they may still have full access to the sacraments. The problem is that the temptation is great to fall into sin and the arrangement is very difficult. However, if there are kids of that union, it might the best arrangement. This issue might be best answered by a good priest.

If a spouse has died, one is free to remain single or remarry and has full access to the sacraments.

 

[lak611]

Also, if a man or woman divorces and remarries someone else in a civil ceremony and then his or her original spouse dies, the second marriage can be convalidated in the Church. My grandmother divorced my grandfather back in the 1940’s and married my step-grandfather. I never knew my real grandfather, since he died in the early 1960’s. After his death, my grandmother and step-grandfather went to the Church and had a small Church wedding with just the priest and a few witnesses. Both of them returned to the Sacraments after having the Church wedding, and they were faithful Catholics the rest of their lives. Nowadays, my grandmother probably would have received an annulment from her first marriage, since her first husband was abusive and alcoholic, but that was not a possibility in the 1940’s.

 

[Br.Rich_SFO]

That is the problem, what I’m wondering is can we find out if they were to live as brother and sister after a broken first marriage is valid but the other spouse has divorced them. Or the other spouse may have died but the person wants to remain single for the children’s sake.

We have this problem in part because there aren’t enough grand children to be a time filling vocation for the single grand parents.

They could join a religious order like the house with males and females who run our marian center but some can’t.

The other options are possibly church work, but what are some of the things lay people can do.

jbuttrey

A person in a second irregular Marriage and who’s first spouse dies is free to seek to have the second Marriage recognized.

Also a person who has not attempted another Marriage after a divorce is also able to access the Sacraments.

Only if they have attempted another Marriage after a divorce are they unable to access the Sacraments.

Their Pastor is the starting point.

 

[rpp]

A person in a second irregular Marriage and who’s first spouse dies is free to seek to have the second Marriage recognized.

It is worth noting that if a person causes the death of their first spouse through means other than accidental, it is against canon law for the Church to recognize any subsequent marriage.

In other words, murdering your ex- ( ) will not leave you open to marry and therefore will not make your current marriage valid!

 

[jbuttrey]

I was feeling sorry for the lonely and not seeing the bigger picture, if we start to bend the rules then we water down marriage and betray more of the children.

To protect the most children and keep marriages together we can’t go on our feelings for people who may be unable to get a old marriage formally dissolved.

jbuttrey

 

[thistle]

If a couple lives as brother and sister, due to a previous marriage declared as valid by the Church, I think they may still have full access to the sacraments. The problem is that the temptation is great to fall into sin and the arrangement is very difficult. However, if there are kids of that union, it might the best arrangement. This issue might be best answered by a good priest.

If a spouse has died, one is free to remain single or remarry and has full access to the sacraments.

What you have described is the situation of my wife and I. You are right that it is difficult but it is possible. We live a life of continence and yes we receive Holy communion.