Mary, roots on why she is seen different

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Looking at differences in a single translation of a verse. Luke 1:28

KJV:

And the angel came in unto her, and said, Hail, thou that art highly favoured, the Lord is with thee: blessed art thou among women.

God’s Word translation:

When the angel entered her home, he greeted her and said, “You are favored by the Lord! The Lord is with you.”

Weymouth translation:

So Gabriel went into the house and said to her, “Joy be to you, favoured one! the Lord is with you.”

Most Catholic translations:

And when the angel had come to her, he said, “Hail, full of grace, the Lord is with thee. Blessed art thou among women.”

There is a lot to be said in a translation, just these small differences.
 
Agree.

That is why I rely on Holy Mother Church to help me with what the Bible is really saying. I know I am not smart enough nor do I have the mind power of the Church.

We have some pretty smart people in the Catholic Church that want to help us understand what each verse means in its totality. That’s the route I take.

Take care.
 
Looking at differences in a single translation of a verse.
There is a lot to be said in a translation, just these small differences.
It hurts me so much that Our Blessed Mother Mary has been obscured in these translations. I can not understand the reason why Our Heavenly Mother is just a footnote in the "Christian " versions. I am not happy with some of our newer “versions” either.

Hail Mary, full of grace.
Our Lord is with thee.
Blessed art thou among women,
and blessed is the fruit of thy womb,
Jesus.
Holy Mary, Mother of God,
pray for us sinners,
now and at the hour of our death.
Amen.the am

On Our BlessedMother’s Assumption Day I am reflecting on Jesus’ love for his Mother, and feeling the mysteries of the Rosary. Today, I feel, is a good day to reflect on all of them.
 
Looking at differences in a single translation of a verse. Luke 1:28

KJV:

And the angel came in unto her, and said, Hail, thou that art highly favoured, the Lord is with thee: blessed art thou among women.

God’s Word translation:

When the angel entered her home, he greeted her and said, “You are favored by the Lord! The Lord is with you.”

Weymouth translation:

So Gabriel went into the house and said to her, “Joy be to you, favoured one! the Lord is with you.”

Most Catholic translations:

And when the angel had come to her, he said, “Hail, full of grace, the Lord is with thee. Blessed art thou among women.”

There is a lot to be said in a translation, just these small differences.
The “favoured” translations are all based on a highly dubious and political choice made by the King James bible translators, and followed by protestants (and sadly some liberal Catholic translators) ever since.

Earlier protestant translations had translated the greek word kecharitomene as “Full of Grace”. This is logical, because the word Charis the base of kecharitomene is translated through the New Testament as GRACE.

However by the 17th Century protestants were turning more against honour being paid to Mary so they deliberately changed GRACE to FAVOUR - a change that is possible in secular Greek, but highly misleading in Biblical Greek.
 
Hi Axion,

The “highly favored” thing is not the result of a liberal plot. It results from the modern translation philosophy that holds that the translator must render the original in the way that it was understood by the people for whom it was originally written.

The “full of grace” translation is a re-translation from the Vulgate Latin "gratia plena"and results from the ancient philosophy that held that, in translating the bible, you should take into account the theological developments that came after the original text was written. (A position still favored by the Witnesses of Jehovah)

All modern translations done from the original texts have some equivalent to “highly favored”.

Verbum
 
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