Mary's Virginity

[TylerWS]

There are many times in the Gospel when someone known as Mary was mentioned:

• Mary the mother of James and Joseph in Matthew 27:56
• Mary the mother of Joses in Mark 15:47

These women (or “this woman” if they are the same person) are said to have seen the Crucifixion from a distance. This would mean that the Mary(s) mentioned here could not be the Virgin Mary, the mother of our Lord, because she was at the foot of the Cross at the Crucifixion. At this point, the belief that Mary remained a virgin stays in tact. However, I could find no Biblical proof that the Virgin Mary was at the foot of the Cross at the time of Jesus’ death. This lead me to believe that the Mary(s) mentioned above could be the Virgin Mary, although she most certainly would not be a virgin.

Could someone please help me with this dilema?

TylerWS

 

[JimG]

You might want to start right here at Catholic Answers.

 

[Joe_Kelley]

**John 19:25-27 **

 Standing by the cross of Jesus were his mother and his mother's sister, Mary the wife of Clopas, and Mary of Magdala.

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When Jesus saw his mother 11 and the disciple there whom he loved, he said to his mother, “Woman, behold, your son.”
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Then he said to the disciple, “Behold, your mother.” And from that hour the disciple took her into his home.

 

[James224]

Hi Tyler,

You said: "there are many times in the Gospel when someone known as Mary was mentioned:

• Mary the mother of James and Joseph in Matthew 27:56
• Mary the mother of Joses in Mark 15:47

These women (or “this woman” if they are the same person) are said to have seen the Crucifixion from a distance. This would mean that the Mary(s) mentioned here could not be the Virgin Mary, the mother of our Lord, because she was at the foot of the Cross at the Crucifixion. At this point, the belief that Mary remained a virgin stays in tact. However, I could find no Biblical proof that the Virgin Mary was at the foot of the Cross at the time of Jesus’ death. This lead me to believe that the Mary(s) mentioned above could be the Virgin Mary, although she most certainly would not be a virgin.

Could someone please help me with this dilema?"

My Comment: Yes I can. John 19:25-27 says, “19:25. Now there stood by the cross of Jesus, HIS MOTHER and his mother’s sister, Mary of Cleophas, and Mary Magdalen. 19:26. When Jesus therefore had seen HIS MOTHER and the disciple standing whom he loved, he saith to his mother: Woman, behold thy son. 19:27. After that, he saith to the disciple: Behold thy mother. And from that hour, the disciple took her to his own.”

May God bless,

James224

TylerWS

 

[Bruised_Reed]

TylerWS:

However, I could find no Biblical proof that the Virgin Mary was at the foot of the Cross at the time of Jesus’ death.

TylerWS

When Jesus saw his mother, and the disciple he loved standing near, he said to his mother, “Woman, behold your son!” Then he said to the disciple, “Behold, your Mother!”…
John 19:26-27 RSV-CE

ETA Oh…I see ya’all type faster than me

 

[James224]

Hi Tyler,

After I made my post I started thinking more about what you said. If your concern is about Mary’s virginity, let me know and I’ll try and explain it to you.

May God bless,

James224

 

[jimmy]

TylerWS:

There are many times in the Gospel when someone known as Mary was mentioned:

• Mary the mother of James and Joseph in Matthew 27:56
• Mary the mother of Joses in Mark 15:47

These women (or “this woman” if they are the same person) are said to have seen the Crucifixion from a distance. This would mean that the Mary(s) mentioned here could not be the Virgin Mary, the mother of our Lord, because she was at the foot of the Cross at the Crucifixion. At this point, the belief that Mary remained a virgin stays in tact. However, I could find no Biblical proof that the Virgin Mary was at the foot of the Cross at the time of Jesus’ death. This lead me to believe that the Mary(s) mentioned above could be the Virgin Mary, although she most certainly would not be a virgin.

Could someone please help me with this dilema?

TylerWS

Here are the relevant verses.

[Matthew 27 (Douay-Rheims Bible, Matthew Chapter 27)
56 Among whom was Mary Magdalen, and Mary the mother of James and Joseph, and the mother of the sons of Zebedee.

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[Mark 15 (Douay-Rheims Bible, Mark Chapter 15)

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40 And there were also women looking on afar off: among whom was Mary Magdalen, and Mary the mother of James the less and of Joseph, and Salome:

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[Luke 24 (Douay-Rheims Bible, Luke Chapter 24)
10 And it was Mary Magdalen, and Joanna, and Mary of James, and the other women that were with them, who told these things to the apostles.

[John 19 (Douay-Rheims Bible, John Chapter 19)
25 Now there stood by the cross of Jesus, his mother, and his mother’s sister, Mary of Cleophas, and Mary Magdalen.

[Acts Of Apostles 1 (Douay-Rheims Bible, Acts of Apostles Chapter 1)
14 All these were persevering with one mind in prayer with the women, and Mary the mother of Jesus, and with his brethren.

The Catholic Church assumes that it is Mary the wife of Cleophas who is the mother of James and Joseph. You can see that she was present in the Gospel of John.

One thing I find very contradictory about the idea of Mary, the mother of Jesus being the mother of James and Joseph is, in Luke he says that “Mary of James” is present. In Acts the same writer calls Mary the mother of Jesus.

It would also be strange that he would call the mother of Jesus “the mother of James” and exclude Jesus. Jesus is the most important and would be the one mentioned.

The proof that Mary was at the foot of the cross is when Jesus says to John behold your mother. Jesus died right after he told John this as said below.

John 19
26 When Jesus therefore had seen his mother and the disciple standing whom he loved, he saith to his mother: Woman, behold thy son. 27 After that, he saith to the disciple: Behold thy mother. And from that hour, the disciple took her to his own. 28 Afterwards, Jesus knowing that all things were now accomplished, that the scripture might be fulfilled, said: I thirst. 29 Now there was a vessel set there full of vinegar. And they, putting a sponge full of vinegar and hyssop, put it to his mouth. 30 Jesus therefore, when he had taken the vinegar, said: It is consummated. And bowing his head, he gave up the ghost.

 

[mayra_hart]

to tyler ws: if you want to read about the virgin mary go to CATHOLIC EDUCATOR RESOURCE CENTER AN CHECK AN ARTICLE FROM SCOTT HAHN TITLE MARY HOLY,HOLY MOTHER. i hope this will help you. bless you all. santa maria madre de dios … amen