Mat 24,36 End Times Prediction by other means

[AndyF]

In this paragraph Jesus states he does not know when end times will occur, and only the Father knows.

Jesus also possess future knowledge of events. One example of many is when he tells Peter that he now enjoys his freedom but later he will be bound and taken without his will.

It occured to me that Jesus could through self analysis of his fore knowledge determine it’s limit by invoking knowledge of future earthly events, and determining the date where he first receives no knowledge. Most probably, this is where the “film of life” “comes off of the reel” so to speak.

Andy

 

[Cashue]

In this paragraph Jesus states he does not know when end times will occur, and only the Father knows.

Jesus also possess future knowledge of events. One example of many is when he tells Peter that he now enjoys his freedom but later he will be bound and taken without his will.

It occured to me that Jesus could through self analysis of his fore knowledge determine it’s limit by invoking knowledge of future earthly events, and determining the date where he first receives no knowledge. Most probably, this is where the “film of life” “comes off of the reel” so to speak.

Andy

Yes, I think you are right, that is a very clear, simple and understandable way of looking at things. Thank you!

Jesus said he didn’t know but he did know, he knew perfectly well, the film of life had come of the reel and he invoked knowldege of future earthly evens through self analysis of his forknowledge which was limited by the knowledge he recieves therein.

I never thought of it that way. Thanks.

 

[AndyF]

Yes, I think you are right, that is a very clear, simple and understandable way of looking at things. Thank you!

Jesus said he didn’t know but he did know, he knew perfectly well, the film of life had come of the reel and he invoked knowldege of future earthly evens through self analysis of his forknowledge which was limited by the knowledge he recieves therein.

I never thought of it that way. Thanks.

No, if he says he didn’t then he didn’t. We can only assume there is a valid explanation to the question, and the reason remains open. Sometimes misteries will only be divulged to those who are worthy. This is why we are told to believe first, THEN all will eventually be revealed.

One needs to look at such questions subjectively, and not to be drawn to conclusions that can easily have the potential to draw us away from Faith. Keeping this reminder at the forefront admits to our limitations and we submit willingly to a higher Authority who commands us to trust.

AndyF

 

[inocente]

Keeping this reminder at the forefront admits to our limitations and we submit willingly to a higher Authority who commands us to trust.

This is a deep question about the nature of Jesus. He is perfect and without sin, but is He “superman” or made flesh to experience and share our lives?

Surely he took up our infirmities
and carried our sorrows,
yet we considered him stricken by God,
smitten by him, and afflicted.

Isaiah 53:4 NIV

He cries out “My God, My God, why have you forsaken me?” (Mark 15:34) and says “Father, into your hands I commit my spirit” (Luke 23:46). If Jesus shared some of our frailties, we may have to accept that He did not have perfect foresight. So in John 21:19, it may simply be obvious to Jesus that Peter will be martyred. (Or we could argue that in this case it’s a moot point as the resurrected Christ is now one again with the Father.)

 

[colmcille1]

Very interesting post, sir!
There is a very accessible book tie-in with the movie ‘The Passion of the Christ’. In it, the last seven words (sayings) of Jesus are explicated clearly.
I agree with your post no.3.
God Bless,
Colmcille1.

 

[Ron_Conte]

He cries out “My God, My God, why have you forsaken me?” (Mark 15:34) and says “Father, into your hands I commit my spirit” (Luke 23:46). If Jesus shared some of our frailties, we may have to accept that He did not have perfect foresight. So in John 21:19, it may simply be obvious to Jesus that Peter will be martyred. (Or we could argue that in this case it’s a moot point as the resurrected Christ is now one again with the Father.)

It is a common opinion of theologians that Jesus had the Beatific Vision in His human nature during His lifetime. So, like all the Blessed in Heaven, He could obtain knowledge on any subject directly from the Divine Nature, and He could not be mistaken about what he knew. His human mind did not know all truths all in one act, as His Divine Mind does. But He could know whatever He wished to know, even truths about the future (Mt 24; Mk 13; Lk 21).

The Knowledge of Jesus Christ
newadvent.org/cathen/08675a.htm