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Jesus taught us how to pray and how not to pray in Matt 6. Some Bible translations say “vain repetitions” while some say “empty phrases”. We all know this is the reason why fundamentalists attack Catholics for our prayers like Rosary, etc. What’s the right interpretation?
 
From the Haydock Commentary:
Ver. 7. Long prayer is not here forbidden; for Christ himself spent whole nights in prayer: and he sayeth, we must pray always; and the apostle, that we must pray without intermission, 1 Thessalonians v.; and the holy Church hath had from the beginning her canonical hours for prayer, but rhetorical and elaborate prayer, as if we thought to persuade God by our eloquence, is forbidden; the collects of the Church are most brief and most effectual. (St. Augustine, ep. 121. chap. viii, ix, x.) (Bristow) — Perseverance in prayer is recommended us by the example of the poor widow, who by her importunity prevailed over the unjust judge. (St. Chrysostom, hom. xix.) — The Greek word means, to babble or trifle.
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Thanks for the response. But still, how accurate is the “vain repetition” phrase found in other Bible versions and how did it come about?
It refers to Pharasitical prayer, where numers counted – the more prayers you said, the better. It was almost like Buddist prayers, where a prayer is written on a wheel, and by spinning the wheel you get “credit” for many prayers.
 
Psalm 136 has 26 verses. All 26 end with - "for his mercy endureth forever (KJV). Talk about “vain repetition”!!! So is the bible guilty of that?

Obviously, not. It is not the repetition that is the problem - because the bible does it. It is the attitude and purpose of the repetition. Is it done as prayer to God? Jesus gave us the “Our Father”. Did He mean for us to say it only once?

Vain repetition means just that - repetition without the purpose of trying to pray to or please God with prayer.

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Jesus taught us how to pray and how not to pray in Matt 6. Some Bible translations say “vain repetitions” while some say “empty phrases”. We all know this is the reason why fundamentalists attack Catholics for our prayers like Rosary, etc. What’s the right interpretation?
The word in Greek is “babble”.
 
vain
4. without real significance, value, or importance; baseless or worthless

I am sure this is the definition of vain that verse calls for and i see nothing insignificant, invaluable, important, or baseless especially not worthless in any of the repetitious prayers that catholics pray!
 
Matthew 26:44
So, leaving them again, he (Jesus) went away and prayed for the third time, saying the same words.

Ummmm…

Didn’t Jesus read Matthew Chapter 6?
 
The word in Greek is “babble”.
If you read the whole verse, if I’m not mistaken Jesus said don’t offer up vain repetitions like the Gentiles do. So, he might not have been referring to the Jewish practice at all but some pagan practice.
 
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