May 29 Mass readings (Peter is the one first chosen to head the Church)

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Acts 25:13-21:

King Agrippa and Bernice arrived in Caesarea on a visit to Festus. Since they spent several days there, Festus referred Paul’s case to the king, saying, “There is a man here left in custody by Felix. When I was in Jerusalem the chief priests and the elders of the Jews brought charges against him and demanded his condemnation. I answered them that it was not Roman practice to hand over an accused person before he has faced his accusers and had the opportunity to defend himself against their charge. So when they came together here, I made no delay; the next day I took my seat on the tribunal and ordered the man to be brought in. His accusers stood around him, but did not charge him with any of the crimes I suspected. Instead they had some issues with him about their own religion and about a certain Jesus who had died but who Paul claimed was alive. Since I was at a loss how to investigate this controversy, I asked if he were willing to go to Jerusalem and there stand trail on these charges. And when Paul appealed that he be held in custody for the emperor’s decision, I ordered him held until I could send him to Caesar.”

St Jn 21:15-19:

After Jesus had revealed himself to his disciples and eaten breakfast with them, he said to Simon Peter, “Simon, Son of John, do you love me more than these?” Simon Peter answered him, “Yes, Lord, you know that I love you.” Jesus said to him, “feed my lambs.” He then said to Simon Peter a second time, “Simon, Son of John, do you love me?” Simon Peter answered him, “Yes, Lord, you know that I love you.” He said to him the third time, “Simon, Son of John, do you love me?” Peter was distressed that he had said to him a third time, “Do you love me?” and he said to him, “Lord, you know everything; you know that I love you.” Jesus said to him, “Feed my sheep. Amen, amen, I say to you, when you were younger, you used to dress yourself and go where you wanted; but when you grow old, you will stretch out your hands, and someone else will dress you and lead you where you do not want to go.” He said this signifying by what kind of death he would glorify God. And when he had said this, he said to him, “Follow me.”

*Jesus probably repeated this question to Peter for emphasis but some say also because Peter had denied Him 3 times and so he was given a chance to take back the denials…

In any case Jesus chose Peter to head His Church, to give to us all He wanted to give us… Church teachings, the Eucharist, the truth… the way to Heaven. Peter was the first pope… *
 
To me the first reading is about Paul not Peter leading up to pentcost. Paul being condemmed for the teachings of Jesus’s ressurrection, Jesus being alive in us and we in him.
The gospel does say to a point about Peter in feeding his sheep, we remember about Jesus saying to Peter you will deny me 3 times before i am crucified. But I don’t see how it says anything about being the First pope. I know in the Gospel of John when Jesus gives us the church ( upon this rock) he then makes Peter the Vicar ( high priest) the First Pope . Following him means to me as in following Christ not Peter , I am not saying we don’t do what the popes say, I am saying in this scripture I feel it saying to follow Christ.

MY opinon Halos

Peace I leave with you my friend!
 
*Jesus probably repeated this question to Peter for emphasis but some say also because Peter had denied Him 3 times and so he was given a chance to take back the denials… *
*In any case Jesus chose Peter to head His Church, to give to us all He wanted to give us… Church teachings, the Eucharist, the truth… the way to Heaven. Peter was the first pope… *
John 21:15-19 – The “Reinstatement” Theory

In the closing chapter of the Gospel of John, we find a very poignant moment between Jesus and Simon Peter.

John 21:15-19
15When they had finished eating, Jesus said to Simon Peter, “Simon son of John, do you truly love me more than these?”
“Yes, Lord,” he said, “you know that I love you.”
Jesus said, “Feed my lambs.”
16Again Jesus said, “Simon son of John, do you truly love me?”
He answered, “Yes, Lord, you know that I love you.”
Jesus said, “Take care of my sheep.”
17 The third time he said to him, “Simon son of John, do you love me?”
Peter was hurt because Jesus asked him the third time, “Do you love me?” He said, “Lord, you know all things; you know that I love you.”
Jesus said, “Feed my sheep. 18 I tell you the truth, when you were younger you dressed yourself and went where you wanted; but when you are old you will stretch out your hands, and someone else will dress you and lead you where you do not want to go.” 19Jesus said this to indicate the kind of death by which Peter would glorify God. Then he said to him, “Follow me!”

Catholics hold that this passage confirms Peter as shepherd of the one flock of Christ (cf. John 10:11) and head of the universal Church.

In contrast, many non-Catholics believe that because Peter had denied knowing Jesus three times before the cock crowed, this passage simply reveals the re-instatement of Peter to the position of Apostle. However, a closer look at the sequence of events following Jesus’ resurrection reveals that this is simply not the case.

When was Peter commissioned by Jesus, bestowed with the Holy Spirit and given the authority to forgive and retain sins? Was it in John 21? NO! It was days earlier as shown in the previous chapter of John:

John 20:19-23
19On the evening of that first day of the week, when the disciples were together, with the doors locked for fear of the Jews, Jesus came and stood among them and said, “Peace be with you!” 20After he said this, he showed them his hands and side. The disciples were overjoyed when they saw the Lord.
21Again Jesus said, “Peace be with you! As the Father has sent me, I am sending you.” 22And with that he breathed on them and said, “Receive the Holy Spirit. 23If you forgive anyone his sins, they are forgiven; if you do not forgive them, they are not forgiven.”

Here we see Jesus “sending” the Apostles—Peter among them—just as the Father had sent Him. We also see that Peter receives the same commission and the same “breath of God” that the other Apostles received (except Thomas who was absent).

If Peter had yet to be reinstated by Jesus as is often claimed, why did Peter receive the same commission and the same authority to forgive or retain sins as the other Apostles who had not denied Jesus and [theoretically] did not need to be reinstated? If Peter’s denial had somehow cost him his place, how could he be treated equally to those who were still Apostles? After all, his reinstatement had not yet occurred.

No, Jesus commissioned Peter equally with the other Apostles at that point because Peter was still an Apostle at that point. Later, on the beach, Peter received an additional commission - one that was foretold in Mt. 16:18-19 - that he was to lead the Church as the earthly Vicar of Christ.
 
Following him means to me as in following Christ not Peter , I am not saying we don’t do what the popes say, I am saying in this scripture I feel it saying to follow Christ.

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who said anything about following Peter?

Peter followed Christ and because Peter saw Jesus, lived w/ Him, KNEW Him, we can trust that when Jesus ascended to Heaven, Peter was the one who would lead us… keep us from falling into error (st Mt 16:18… "the gates of Hell will not prevail against [the Churdh])

Peter was the one who loved Jesus so enthusiastically… whole-heartedly (not tht the others didn’t…) which is why i think Jesus chose him to be 1st head of earthly Church… Then all that Peter “had” ws passed down to the succeeding popes throughout history…

I realize tht Protestants are basically taught to disagree w/ everything & anything the RCC teaches… so i know that you kind of can’t help it … disputing such things… you’ve got at least 500 yrs of separation from the first Church… to deal with… In a way its good to question things…

but if nothing else, it kind of stands to reason that God would do this… seeing as how Jesus was not meant to stay on Earth forever, physically (except in the Real Presence)… (st Mt 28:20)
 
To me the first reading is about Paul not Peter leading up to pentcost. Paul being condemmed for the teachings of Jesus’s ressurrection, Jesus being alive in us and we in him.
The gospel does say to a point about Peter in feeding his sheep, we remember about Jesus saying to Peter you will deny me 3 times before i am crucified. But I don’t see how it says anything about being the First pope. I know in the Gospel of John when Jesus gives us the church ( upon this rock) he then makes Peter the Vicar ( high priest) the First Pope . Following him means to me as in following Christ not Peter , I am not saying we don’t do what the popes say, I am saying in this scripture I feel it saying to follow Christ.

MY opinon Halos

Peace I leave with you my friend!
i just read that you are catholic…

wel, i’m not going to change what i wrote because there may be Protestants reading this…

can’t figure out why you say what you do if you are Catholic?? :confused:
 
John 21:15-19
In contrast, many non-Catholics believe that because Peter had denied knowing Jesus three times before the cock crowed, this passage simply reveals the re-instatement of Peter to the position of Apostle. However, a closer look at the sequence of events following Jesus’ resurrection reveals that this is simply not the case.


When was Peter commissioned by Jesus, bestowed with the Holy Spirit and given the authority to forgive and retain sins? Was it in John 21? NO! It was days earlier as shown in the previous chapter of John:

John 20:19-23
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wow… thanks so much for this contribution… never heard that one before… 🙂
 
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