Media response: 9-11 vs George Floyd

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I’m pondering the extent to which the media fans the flames of the causes it wants to promote. For instance, it’s my understanding that the news media won’t show the 9-11 footage, because it’s too controversial, etc, but the news outlets show the George Floyd killing over and over.
Am I wrong? Possibly…
 
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The media plays a huge part because they are the ones disseminating information. And they choose what they will and will not show the public. It may be freedom of the press, but it is free to show what they want the public to see.
 
I also remember the media telling us after 9/11 that we needed to stay calm and peaceful, and not Islamophobically think bad things about Muslims.
 
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For instance, it’s my understanding that the news media won’t show the 9-11 footage, because it’s too controversial,
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They showed it constantly in the aftermath of 9/11. It was 20 years ago, why would they be showing that now? It isn’t part of the news cycle. They do show it on various retrospectives when the anniversary comes around.

This was on CBS last September:


I don’t think “because it’s too controversial”, but rather what is the point 20 years later? It isn’t news now, so it would indeed be to stoke tensions or rhetoric if news outlets were playing footage frequently. It’s appropriate during the anniversary timeframe or if it’s relevant to something going on.
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but the news outlets show the George Floyd killing over and over.
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Because it’s news. Because over the course of this week, additional video has surfaced.

They don’t show the Rodney King beating on TV anymore, but they did when it happened. We don’t see footage of the bungling of the Katrina evacuations, or the Elian Gonzalez raid, or any number of other things we saw 24/7 when they were happening.

Again: we see it now because it’s relevant.
 
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27lw said:
I’m pondering the extent to which the media fans the flames of the causes it wants to promote. For instance, it’s my understanding that the news media won’t show the 9-11 footage, because it’s too controversial, etc, but the news outlets show the George Floyd killing over and over.
Am I wrong? Possibly…
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No you are right.
The predominant elite media slants way WAY left. By their own admission according to anonymous surveys that were done in the past. Bernie Goldberg wrote a book about this.
The predominant elite media: cbs nbc abc wapo nyt will promote shocking news that bolsters leftist causes. Fox is an exception to this. Fox’ editorial content slants way right, but they do well rounded hard news.
None of the others even make a pretense at well rounded news, it’s all editorial now. Everyone has a bias, so the fact that bias exists is not a problem. Deception is the problem.

To back up your post: facebook will not allow a video showing the grieving wives of fallen military. It blocks that content. Try and show any controversial abortion video. It is shutdown.

The left is radically intolerant of dissent, ironically.
 
And just to call out the moral hypocrisy of leftist media:
They will show tons of concern over the murders of attractive young white women when the story is sexually titillating and pictures are available of them.
“missing white woman syndrome”.

When is the last time abc news grieved over the loss of a black woman killed by her husband? Good luck finding that. Murdered black women don’t show up on their radar screen. Why is that? Does abc news find them unattractive? Are they not worth mourning?
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Columbia School of Journalism is turning out hypocrites that would make the Pharisees blush.
 
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The media didn’t show video and pictures of the 9-11 attacks? Were you around in 2001? It was constant. This includes pictures of people jumping and falling out of the burning towers to their deaths.

I remember watching the WTC collapse on live TV.
 
It was constant for weeks if not months.

I remember that as well. A truly horrible day…
 
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I’m pondering the extent to which the media fans the flames of the causes it wants to promote.
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Let’s pretend that the media wants to promote the cause of racial injustice. Is the cause of racial injustice a poor cause to promote?

If a video surfaced of a person pinning down a [insert your favorite animal here - dog, cat, lama, python, koala, shark, whatever] for 8 minutes (all the while the animal whimpering and pleading for its life) and the media reported it - how would we (universally) respond? Would we ask about the media’s culpability in “fanning the flames”?

What causes would Jesus promote? What cause does the Catholic Church promote? Personally - I’m all in on both of those - and if the media is too, so much the better.
 
27lw said:
For instance, it’s my understanding that the news media won’t show the 9-11 footage, because it’s too controversial, etc, but the news outlets show the George Floyd killing over and over.
Am I wrong? Possibly…
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You are. Current events are always going to be on the news far more than those of 19 years ago. Why would you expect otherwise? That doesn’t make any sense.
 
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I’m pondering the extent to which the media fans the flames of the causes it wants to promote.
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Let’s pretend that the media wants to promote the cause of racial injustice. Is the cause of racial injustice a poor cause to promote?

If a video surfaced of a person pinning down a [insert your favorite animal here - dog, cat, lama, python, koala, shark, whatever] for 8 minutes (all the while the animal whimpering and pleading for its life) and the media reported it - how would we (universally) respond? Would we ask about the media’s culpability in “fanning the flames”?

What causes would Jesus promote? What cause does the Catholic Church promote? Personally - I’m all in on both of those - and if the media is too, so much the better.
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Yes, but I believe that there is an element where the media chooses which police killings to show over and over. I can’t recall as much publicity about police killings of Latino, white, Asians. I realize that black men are killed at a higher percentage, but the media might give the impression that black men are the only ones killed. Which would be inaccurate.
 
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I realize that black men are killed at a higher percentage, but the media might give the impression that black men are the only ones killed. Which would be inaccurate.
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Maybe so. But I bet very, very few of them occur over a period of 8 minutes, with the prisoner cuffed, helpless and begging for mercy the whole time…
 
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it’s my understanding that the news media won’t show the 9-11 footage
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As someone who was an adult when this event occurred, I have seen footage from every angle, over and over on news/documentaries/commentary so many times it is burned into my brain.

Who is giving you this idea?

Another thing to keep in mind, it is completely within your power what sort/how often/how much media you consume. I stopped consuming for-profit news many years ago. I’m extremely selective, and my peace of soul was not this way when I was a for profit news junkie.
 
These occurrences are human interest stories. Does the media determine what a human interest story is or do we determine it and the media accommodates our thirst for them?

If they didn’t attract hundred of thousands of viewers, would they bother? Media is driven by ratings and profits. We watch these stories for various reasons and the media delivers them. Why is this a bias? Or even political?

I’m not sure how true this is but once heard someone explain that a story with facts is perceived as left wing bias because the truth IS left wing biased.
 
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Does the media determine what a human interest story is or do we determine it and the media accommodates our thirst for them?
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Can it be that truth is both? There can certainly be a feedback in which what the media says influences what people think, and what people think influences what the media says. But it’s a circle, it’s not unidirectional.
 
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Well firstly 9/11 was news, endlessly, for months afterwards. I’m not in the US and it was everywhere. In fact it was pretty much the biggest news story world wide. Then in 2003 it was all about the build up to and aftermath of the Iraq war, there was endless coverage everywhere. Then in 2005 it was all about Katrina and the disastrous and glacially slow US government response to it.

The point is you don’t see these things any more because their news cycle is over, and new stories have taken over. I think that in part that the reason this story has blown up so quickly is because frankly the CV-19 stories are getting boring with no new information to impart.
 
I remember watching 9/11 footage for days after it happened. Endless replays etc
 
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