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JimR-OCDS said:
Charkras are nothing more than pressure points, which indeed exist. These are various parts of the body where great numbers of nerve endings are. Acupuncturist know these spots and use their methods in these various regions of the body to stimulate nerves that trigger other responses in the body.

Beyond that, its wishful thinking Grasshopper. 😃

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I never knew that Chakras were the same as pressure points. I thought that they were different. Live and learn!

Thanks for straightening me out 👍
 
Impertinens said:
Also, most people who try “Eastern” forms of meditation without being born in the culture do not really have much of a clue about what they are doing.

They do not belong to the tradition, they know not of the theological significance of these techniques, and they have no knowledge of the potential pitfalls: they are just playing with forms of spirituality that they do not understand, and they often delude themselves of having done great progress towards enlightenment when they have barely started, if at all - and by the way, the very traditions that they draw inspiration from are quick to point out that this is a very dangerous mistake.

So, I think, Hindu or Buddhist meditation as practiced by non-Hindus/non-Buddhists tends to be a significantly more dangerous, less spiritually profitable practice than the same form of meditation as practiced from people who bothered to study the religion.
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Agreed.
I gave this topic some more thought and it occurred to me that in Hinduism, there are many gods (i.e., Krishna, Kali, Hanuman, Ganesh, Durga, Mahalakshmi, etc.) and Buddhism has Buddha and the following of his path. They both have the concept of reincarnation – being born over and over again until reaching some plateau of total perfection (involving much meditation also) and then it’s “God-realization” for Hindus and “Nirvana” for the Buddhists.
So besides being dangerous to non-Hindus and non-Buddhists; God the Father is not part of these religions. Nor is Jesus Christ, the Son of God. Nor is the Holy Spirit.
I am not dissing the religions of others. I’m just stating my belief that they are missing the omnipotent, glorious, beautiful, indescribable, unimaginable full treasure of the Way, the Truth and the Life.
Dabbling in the practice of these other ways can bring about tragedy to a Christian soul.
 
Julian0404 said:
The bible contains many stories of JESUS removing demons and evil spirits from people, and when the spirits were remvoed they knew WHO it was that removed them, so the world does contain demons and devils who “…prowl about the world seeking the ruin of souls…”
I have not heard of what you are meditating upon, but clearly you are open to “spirits” and are opening your self to knowing the “spirits” more. From a Christian prespective I think you are entering into dangerous waters and exposing yourself to accepting the habitation of evil spirits.
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The one thing that gets me is, if this is so dangerous and evil, why are people who do this, (buddhist monks, or anyone of those religions) not possessed or screwed up? They are the opposite, enlightened, peaceful. Because of this philosophy of meditation, we get ppl like Gandhi,or the Dali Lama, Good peaceful loving ppl. Why do evil spirits not makw them evil?
 
You open yourself up to evil spirits every time you commit a sin (or so I have heard, if memory serves me correctly). You could have a priest or minister who everybody loves and who tries to love the Lord and does his best to love his flock, but he is secretly addicted to drugs or sex. There are often good people who are caught up in bad things, like the occult, and it doesn’t necessarily make them do blatantly evil things. That is my take on it.
 
Rolypoly said:
You open yourself up to evil spirits every time you commit a sin (or so I have heard, if memory serves me correctly). You could have a priest or minister who everybody loves and who tries to love the Lord and does his best to love his flock, but he is secretly addicted to drugs or sex. There are often good people who are caught up in bad things, like the occult, and it doesn’t necessarily make them do blatantly evil things. That is my take on it.
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Even Gandhi, ? the most christ like man in history was not even christian.
 
I shouldn’t have implied so strongly that eastern religions = evil, so I am sorry. But nevertheless I do know that you should stick to Christian spirituality and avoid alternatives in conformity to the 1st Commandment.

I am no authority on Ghandi but I know he is much beloved, including among committed Christians, and rightfully so. But there are even greater heroes of history known as the Saints, and I think you should learn more about them.
 
I know about the saints, I do not think any of them were much greater then Gandhi. Alot of the saints took things way out of context and over exaggerated.
 
PunnyProtestant said:
I know about the saints, I do not think any of them were much greater then Gandhi. Alot of the saints took things way out of context and over exaggerated.
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If this is your conclusion about the saints, then you really don’t know much about the saints. 😉 Gandhi was a great man, but even he said he was no saint. Gandhi knew about the saints. I’m not arguing this further; since you don’t have reverence for the saints.
God bless you and please don’t be mislead. I’m off this thread.
 
JimR-OCDS said:
Good point! We should take particular note to this section;

For anyone to suggest that Hindu or Buddhist forms of meditation are dangerous, is to suggest that the majority of Hindus and Buddhist are demonically possessed.

Such is not the case.

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no it is not

no it may not be dangerous for a Hindu to engage in Hindu spiritual practice, or for a Buddhist to engage in Buddhist spiritual disciplines, but it is most certainly dangerous for a Christian to do either, and that in no way supposes “demonic possession.” You don’t need to be possessed by a devil to be in danger of losing your soul.
 
PunnyProtestant said:
I know about the saints, I do not think any of them were much greater then Gandhi. Alot of the saints took things way out of context and over exaggerated.
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Christ always knew who He was - God incarnate. Someone like Gandhi who lacked that knowledge - who did not know the divinity of Christ - could not possibly be more Christlike than, say, Mother Teresa who was a woman of great virtue and Godly influence and ALSO an intimate knower and devout follower of Christ. Nor nearly AS Christlike.

If you mean by ‘Christlike’ that Gandhi was a good man who practiced all sorts of corporal works of mercy and social justice, as well as adhering to rigorous bodily asceticism from which he apparently received spiritual benefit, absolutely. And it’s not a bad thing to be, but it’s only half the story and misses a critical component of what we’re meant to be if Christ isn’t the focus and centre.

Kinda like someone who does a good deed half-heartedly (for example as much out of a desire to be praised for doing good as a desire to help others) as opposed to someone who does the same deed with a genuinely disinterested and selfless spirit.
 
puzzleannie said:
no it is not

no it may not be dangerous for a Hindu to engage in Hindu spiritual practice, or for a Buddhist to engage in Buddhist spiritual disciplines, but it is most certainly dangerous for a Christian to do either, and that in no way supposes “demonic possession.” You don’t need to be possessed by a devil to be in danger of losing your soul.
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But a Christian wouldn’t be meditating on anyone other than Jesus Christ, so I think from a Christian perspective, its a moot point.

Jim
 
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