Mel Gibson's The Passion - A question

[pilchard]

I have a recollection that in The Passion somewhere there is a fleeting shot of two demon-characters grasping each other in a mock embrace - either in an attempt to mock Christ or might have been in one of the Judas scenes

Don’t whatever you do go wasting your time searching for it - but anyone out there knows if such a scene exists and knows roughly where in the film it occurs I would be grateful of the info.

Apart from the time it would take me - watching the Passion is never something I would do lightly - certainly not something I would want to do looking for a particlular bit. In truth I think The PAssion will be a once a year film for me (if that) - a Lenten reflection

 

[blackfish152]

To my mind the scene you are talking about is when Christ is getting scourged whilst tied to the pillar. so it should be in the second half of the film I imagine.

To me, that shows satan, cradelling his little (hideous!!!) Child, and He is rubbing it in Christs Face-saying if you had followed my ways, I would have been a kind father to you! You would not have to suffer in my plan for the world!

 

[Joe_Kelley]

I am currently reading The Theology of THE PASSION OF THE CHRIST by Monica Migliorino Miller. I find it well written with a lot of insight explaining various matters in the film.

She starts out with the premise that it is not a drama - no plot or conflict, no character development. It is an aid to meditation like an Old Master’s painting. We already know the story; this brings it home.

 

[Zooey]

Joe Kelley:

I am currently reading The Theology of THE PASSION OF THE CHRIST by Monica Migliorino Miller. I find it well written with a lot of insight explaining various matters in the film.

She starts out with the premise that it is not a drama - no plot or conflict, no character development. It is an aid to meditation like an Old Master’s painting. We already know the story; this brings it home.

Wow! Yes, that is exactly how it is! I had not thought about it that way, but when you said that, it clicked with me that that was exactly the way it affected me.
One thing I have noticed especially, is that when I am doing the sorrowful mysteries in the rosary, over & over, the scenes from that movie play in my head.

 

[TheRam]

Zooey, you are getting a bigger allotted space in my head for even having mentioned the rosary and the details sourounding it. I get the same pictures. Not for effect, simply because the sorrow was so deeply felt and remembered.

I also have flashes of my son struggaling for breath, but his death is still fresh for me, and i believe that the light he drew from the pain, as he did believe god wanted him to learn from everything…that i understand more of the mystery, nescesity, and the outcome spiritually for suffering in any form.

As for the movie, i did not remember the part mentioned by blackfish. Good one! I do remember enjoying the deepness, and the lengths of evil the evil was. It had a sweeter face (and could be) but it remained in my mind, that evil does not have to have a pretty face, that it is deceptive, and manipulative as well.

You see, i see the intent of others deeper than others around me do. I have their scinario plotted out before me, tell others when asked, that they are not someone i plan on spending time with for insert reason and they are always shocked that a month down the road, that i was right. I can not see what is devious in them…i sense it, and simply feel the difference with me also asking God if i can truse etc…after i have sensed it. I do not simply trust myself. It was nice to see the work with a visual, as some of the people i have experienced this strong feeling in have been very evil…with a sweet smile. (example: my ex, and the many male boys that he sexually abused…I knew before i knew about the victums and their names.)

This movie is a movie that i would save for helping others understand the passion, if they were interested…as any good movie is better when the discussion is there afterwards. The other reason would be on a holiday, alone, so that i could personally meditate on ways that this apreciation can become stronger in me.

Thanks all…good topic!