Mention of Eucharist outside of Gospels?

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**Hello all, could some one please let me know if there is any mention of the Blessed Sacrament outside the Gospels? i.e. in acts or letters from Paul etc.?

God bless,
Noel.**
 
**Hello all, could some one please let me know if there is any mention of the Blessed Sacrament outside the Gospels? i.e. in acts or letters from Paul etc.?

God bless,
Noel.**
Malachi 1:11, 1 Corinthians 11:23-29 are two passages.
 
Hi nkelly,

1Co 11:23 For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you, that the Lord Jesus, the same night in which he was betrayed, took bread,
1Co 11:24 And giving thanks, broke and said: Take ye and eat: This is my body, which shall be delivered for you. This do for the commemoration of me.
1Co 11:25 In like manner also the chalice, after he had supped, saying: This chalice is the new testament in my blood. This do ye, as often as you shall drink, for the commemoration of me.
1Co 11:26 For as often as you shall eat this bread and drink the chalice, you shall shew the death of the Lord, until he come.
1Co 11:27 Therefore, whosoever shall eat this bread, or drink the chalice of the Lord unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and of the blood of the Lord.
1Co 11:28 But let a man prove himself: and so let him eat of that bread and drink of the chalice.
1Co 11:29 For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily eateth and drinketh judgment to himself, not discerning the body of the Lord.
1Co 11:30 Therefore are there many infirm and weak among you: and many sleep.
 
Hi!

1st Corinthians 11:23-34 is an amazingly clear look at the “tradition” as they called it then (and we call it Catholicism now!).

God bless,
Aaron
 
The Eucharist is also mentioned in 1 Corinthians 10:14-22.16Is not the cup of blessing we bless a sharing in the blood of Christ? And is not the bread we break a sharing in the body of Christ? 17Because the loaf of bread is one, we, many though we are, are one body, for we all partake of the one loaf. … 21You cannot drink the cup of the Lord and also the cup of demons. You cannot partake of the table of the Lord and likewise the table of demons. (NAB)
 
Foretold and prefigured- Ex 16:15 The Bread of life discourse refers back to the Manna of OT
See also Psalm 78:24
Prov 9:2
Wis !6:20
Celebrated by the Apostles
Acts 2:42
Acts 20:7
 
Hello all, could some one please let me know if there is any mention of the Blessed Sacrament outside the Gospels? i.e. in acts or letters from Paul etc.?

God bless,
Noel.
In 1Corinthians10 and 11 there is quite a bit of mention of it. From what I here Hebrews might be all about the Eucharist. I haven’t read the books that have made the connection though. I think that the river in Revelation22 deals with the Eucharist.
 
Every time they mentioned that they gathered in the breaking of the bread. This is said at various time sin Acts.
 
One thing’s for sure–they didn’t just eat crackers and drink grape juice very infrequently to receive Jesus and remember Him
 
I believe there’s something in Ezekiel, too–similar to John’s visions in Revelation, about the river in the city of God–I remember vaguely it being referred to in the New Testament, in a footnote in the NAB, about a Jewish festival custom of water flowing down from the Temple–all this prefigures Christ on the Cross and the blood and water of life…so sorry I can’t remember the references! More a reference to the Passion–but, same thing 🙂 I love being Catholic!👍
 
You know how music gets stuck in your head? For years I’ve had one refrain going on in my head from an anthem we did years ago in choir when I was a Lutheran and knew nothing about the Catholic Eucharist. It’s probably from the King James Bible. God must have left it in my head for a reason–praise His Holy Name!–“There is a river the streams whereof shall make glad the City of God”
 
Thank you all for the replies. I just don’t understand how protestants can deny the Real Presence in light of so many proofs!

God bless,
Noel.
 
Thank you all for the replies. I just don’t understand how protestants can deny the Real Presence in light of so many proofs!

God bless,
Noel.
They choose not to see rather than admit their own errors.

Pride, and often, prejudice, blind them.
 
I believe there’s something in Ezekiel, too–similar to John’s visions in Revelation, about the river in the city of God–
I’m familiar with this passage, but I think it relates more to the Holy Spirit proceding from the side of Jesus, in the form of water, at his Crucifixion.
On the last day of the Feast of Tabernacles, during the Liturgy, the Levites would go down to the pool of Saloom, fill a huge pitcher of water, and proceed back to the temple. They would circle the altar seven times. Then they would pour the water out over the altar and let it wash down onto the floor. This is what’s going on when Jesus stands up and makes this statement. Becomes a little clearer, right? But it goes deeper. This ritual is part of prophecy from the Old Testament. The Scripture comes from Ezekiel 47, which is read in the Jewish Liturgy for this feast. It starts off with Ezekiel being brought to the entrance of the Temple, where he saw “water flowing out from the threshold of the temple towards the east”.
The water was issuing out from under the altar of the temple, the heart of the temple. Ezekiel leaves the altar and starts walking. As he walks, he measures the depth of the water. In verse 3, the water is ankle deep. In verse 4, it is knee deep, then it’s waist deep. In verse 5, it became a river that could only be crossed by swimming. In verse 8, he hears, "This water flows into the eastern district down upon the Arabah (Arabia), and empties into the sea, the salt waters, which it makes it fresh (it cleanses the Dead Sea). Where ever the river goes there’s life. And one of the key themes to John is “Life”. (9) Wherever the river flows, every sort of living creature that can multiply shall live, and there shall be abundant fish, for wherever this water comes the sea shall be made fresh. (10) Fishermen shall be standing along it from En-gedi to Eneglaim, spreading their nets there. Does this bring anything to mind? Jesus called the disciples (fishermen) to become “fishers of men”. It goes on to describe trees that bear fresh fruit every month, for they shall be watered by the flow from the sanctuary. The fruit from trees are the good works of righeous men.
So, let’s go back to the Jewish Feast. Back in Ezekiel chapter 10, Ezekiel had a vision of the “Shekinah” the Holy Spirit leaving the Temple. The Feast of Tabernacles is the feast of the Temple. It celebrates Solomon when he originally dedicated the Temple, and the “Shekina”, the Glory Cloud of the Holy Spirit descending upon the Temple and remaining there. So in your mind, what are the Jews trying to invoke with the water being poured onto the altar and reading from Ezekiel? The Jews feel that when the Holy Spirit returns to the Temple, it will overflow with this life-giving source of the Holy Spirit (which the water symbolizes) and spread Israel’s glory throughout the land.
With that in mind, let’s look again at what Jesus means when he says, “If anyone thirsts, let him come to me”… If we look at Ezekiel, we see that the water will flow from the altar of the Temple, but Jesus says, ***“Scripture has it: ‘From within him rivers of living water shall flow’”.
Why does he say this? In John, 2:18-19, at this the Jews answered and said to him, “What sign can you show us for doing this?”***Jesus answered and said to them, "Destroy this temple and in three days I will raise it up."What does Jesus mean by saying this? The Temple Jesus is referring to, is His Body. “Destroy this body, and I will raise it up on the third day”, but they did not understand Him. So Jesus is showing the true meaning of Ezekiel. The water, that gives life to everything it touches, is the living water. And Jesus is the Temple from which this living water flows. What is this living water? It is the Life Jesus gives us through the Holy Spirit. The water getting deeper as Ezekiel’s walking away from the Temple represents Time, and the water’s depth increasing as time passes, represents Jesus’ Gospel spreading throughout the World. The Growth of the Church through the Holy Spirit springs from the Sacred Heart of Jesus! John is telling us that Jesus is the fulfillment of Ezekiel’s vision.
John tells us that (vs. 39), “Here he was referring to the Spirit, whom those that came to believe in him were to receive. There was, of course, no Spirit as yet, since Jesus had not yet been glorified”. What John is continuing to show is that Jesus is fulfilling the Jewish Festivals, but in ways the ancient Israelites were completely un-prepared for.
 
Yes, NotWorthy–thank you–wow! This is glorious…I remember hearing it somewhere but forgot all the details. And the Sacred Heart connection…all the miracles of the Eucharist involve the tissue being heart muscle, don’t they?

I also think about the words of the priest before Consecration, “Let the Spirit come upon these gifts, so that they may become for us the Body and Blood of Christ.” The Spirit returning to His temple!

As modern, non-Jewish believers, we just haven’t had the Scriptural background to understand what Jesus was saying. Maybe it just takes grace, though…his apostles were always confused, and he was right there!

In defense of Protestants not believing the Eucharist, at least some of us just didn’t know…grace, again…I mean, I studied the Reformation and its causes in college, but it went right past me…I think it never was on my radar screen that anyone believed it literally, so I never considered it. It wasn’t willful or malicious, just 400 years of indoctrination, lost historical memory on a grand scale, and the automatic, unthinking assumption that modern thinking people see a symbolic meaning–not that I ever consciously thought about it until after becoming Catholic, just that so much of what Jesus said was symbolic. The dangers of sola scriptura. And I didn’t know anything about the Catholic church at all; I knew you put special emphasis on the Lord’s Supper, but I had no idea what you believed. I was converted when Christ came back into my life and showed me over a period of a couple of years the truth about the Eucharist…a road to Emmaus experience ( I thought I was the only one who’d had that Eucharistic insight about that passage!):rolleyes: …and a great help from apologists like Scott Hahn. I find it sad, though, when some of our separated brethren deliberately refuse to even consider the possibility that it’s true, when they know that’s what the Catholic church teaches…that hurts so badly.
 
I also think about the words of the priest before Consecration, “Let the Spirit come upon these gifts, so that they may become for us the Body and Blood of Christ.” The Spirit returning to His temple!
How about, “By the mingling of this water and wine, may we come to share in His Divinity, as He humbled Himself, to share in our humanity.” The priest used to say that out loud. Now, most of the time, they say it in silence.

The water represents our humanity, just as the wine (of course) represents His Divinity.

The more I dwell on that phrase, the more it astounds me!
 
I’ll have to meditate on that one–we’re fortunate that our campus priest says it out loud. When I read your post, it gave me chills–a visual representation of what happens when we receive our Lord–he condescends to allow us to share His divinity–and it reminds me of the verse about how He emptied Himself, becoming man…awesome!
 
I’ll have to meditate on that one–we’re fortunate that our campus priest says it out loud. When I read your post, it gave me chills–a visual representation of what happens when we receive our Lord–he condescends to allow us to share His divinity–and it reminds me of the verse about how He emptied Himself, becoming man…awesome!
Lord, I am not worthy.
Lord, I am not worthy.
Lord, I am not worthy.
Sometimes that’s all I can think about when I’m in the line for communion (it seems like it’s the times that I’m in the right frame of mind, sadly, not often enough).
 
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