Mindfulness Meditation

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Is the practice of Mindfulness Meditation incompatible with Catholicism? Just the practice of meditation for calming the mind, no spiritual or religious practice connected to it. To my thinking, it’s just exercising the mind, like you would exercise and condition any muscle in the body.
 
My husband does mindfulness meditation to help with his depression. He was told by his spiritual advisor (a Benedictine from our local monastery) that it is ok. :cool:
 
Thanks for taking the time to respond and for sharing your situation. Your husband is certainly in my prayers. If you don’t mind me asking, does he find it helpful or beneficial in any substantial way?
 
Can you post a link or suggest a book on Mindfulness Meditation?
 
I do it to fall asleep, help relax tense muscles, and lower blood pressure.
 
RoseMary131,
Try starting here-
m.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-courage-be-present/201001/how-practice-mindfulness-meditation
If you’re still curious, Google and YouTube, can be very helpful.
Steve
p. s. I don’t know if the embedded link is working, if not, you can copy and paste into your browser address window.
Maybe the link will work now:

psychologytoday.com/blog/the-courage-be-present/201001/how-practice-mindfulness-meditation

Thank you, Steve.

Is Mindfulness Meditation linked to iRest - Integrative Restoration ?
 
I don’t know what Integrative Restoration is, so I can’t tell you if it is or not. You can find videos about meditation and guided meditations on YouTube. Be leery of new age type stuff.
 
I see nothing incompatible with the Catholic Faith in what you are suggesting. It would be for you like a mental equivalent to Pilates and non-religious Yoga, am I right? 🙂

Also, seeking a purely “natural rest” for the mind, in which it has found a serenity from disturbing thoughts, is not disapproved of even in the Christian mystical tradition. It isn’t seen as beneficial spiritually either, of course when compared with supernatural rest found in contemplative prayer, nonetheless one of our greatest contemplatives, Blessed Jan van Ruysbroeck concedes:
“…All creatures are naturally inclined towards rest and therefore both the good and the bad seek rest in many different ways. Now notice that whenever a person is bare and imageless in his senses and devoid of activity in his higher powers, he enters a purely natural state of rest. All persons can find and possess this kind of rest in themselves by merely natural means, apart from God’s grace, provided only that they can become empty of images and all activity…Consider now the way in which a person practices this natural rest. It consists in sitting quietly in a state of idleness, without any interior or exterior exercises, in order to find rest and have it remain undisturbed…The rest which they possess consists in an emptying of their inmost being, something to which they are inclined by both nature and custom. One cannot find God in this state of natural rest, but it does bring a person into that state of emptiness which can be attained by all persons…The rest which one attains in this state of emptiness is both satisying and deep. In itself it is not sinful, for it arises naturally in everyone whenever he empties himself of all activity…”
-*** Blessed Jan van Ruysbroeck (1294-1381), Flemish mystic of the Catholic Church***
As you can see, what Ruysbroeck was describing in the 14th century is a practice basically akin to the “mindfulness meditation” you are referring to here. There is nothing sinful about it, nothing virtuous either, its simply available to everyone naturally who strives for it - and as he says above it is satisfying for an individual to experience the fruits of, such as reducing stress, anxiety and so forth.

One thing I would say though is that “meditation” for us Catholics refers to discursive prayer focused, for example, on sacred images and mysteries of the faith such as the Passion of Christ. I would therefore, generally speaking, not use the word “meditation” to refer to a practice which is not “meditation” for us, if you know what I mean.

But on your mindfulness practice 👍
 
I see nothing incompatible with the Catholic Faith in what you are suggesting. It would be for you like a mental equivalent to Pilates and non-religious Yoga, am I right? 🙂

Also, seeking a purely “natural rest” for the mind, in which it has found a serenity from disturbing thoughts, is not disapproved of even in the Christian mystical tradition. It isn’t seen as beneficial spiritually either, of course when compared with supernatural rest found in contemplative prayer, nonetheless one of our greatest contemplatives, Blessed Jan van Ruysbroeck concedes:

As you can see, what Ruysbroeck was describing in the 14th century is a practice basically akin to the “mindfulness meditation” you are referring to here. There is nothing sinful about it, nothing virtuous either, its simply available to everyone naturally who strives for it - and as he says above it is satisfying for an individual to experience the fruits of, such as reducing stress, anxiety and so forth.

One thing I would say though is that “meditation” for us Catholics refers to discursive prayer focused, for example, on sacred images and mysteries of the faith such as the Passion of Christ. I would therefore, generally speaking, not use the word “meditation” to refer to a practice which is not “meditation” for us, if you know what I mean.

But on your mindfulness practice 👍
I use something similar with lectio Divina.
 
The beautiful thing about meditation is that it is non-denominational. All religions do it in some form or other. In Christianity we call it prayer. So go ahead and meditate and enjoy it!
 
I see nothing incompatible with the Catholic Faith in what you are suggesting. It would be for you like a mental equivalent to Pilates and non-religious Yoga, am I right? 🙂

Also, seeking a purely “natural rest” for the mind, in which it has found a serenity from disturbing thoughts, is not disapproved of even in the Christian mystical tradition. It isn’t seen as beneficial spiritually either, of course when compared with supernatural rest found in contemplative prayer, nonetheless one of our greatest contemplatives, Blessed Jan van Ruysbroeck concedes:

As you can see, what Ruysbroeck was describing in the 14th century is a practice basically akin to the “mindfulness meditation” you are referring to here. There is nothing sinful about it, nothing virtuous either, its simply available to everyone naturally who strives for it - and as he says above it is satisfying for an individual to experience the fruits of, such as reducing stress, anxiety and so forth.

One thing I would say though is that “meditation” for us Catholics refers to discursive prayer focused, for example, on sacred images and mysteries of the faith such as the Passion of Christ. I would therefore, generally speaking, not use the word “meditation” to refer to a practice which is not “meditation” for us, if you know what I mean.

But on your mindfulness practice 👍
To me this mindless meditation looks like contemplative prayer except for the very last step. The last step of mindless meditation allows the mind to accept thought, whereas contemplation wants the mind to remain in a state of openness to the the Holy Spirit in readiness and waiting for his special touch.

Just some thoughts.
 
Thanks for taking the time to respond and for sharing your situation. Your husband is certainly in my prayers. If you don’t mind me asking, does he find it helpful or beneficial in any substantial way?
Sorry it took so long to respond (I almost NEVER go back to my old posts), but yes, yes, yes! Mindfulness Meditation is the best thing my husband can do to control his depression; it works far better than any drug or counseling he ever had. He must do it every, single day and I usually check a few times a week, or he forgets, but there is slow, constant improvement all the time. Situations that would have cause major meltdowns a couple of years ago are pretty much laughed off now or briefly commented on and then forgotten. He still has a ways to go, and there are setbacks, but the worst is over. I recommend it to anyone who asks about it.
 
To me this mindless meditation looks like contemplative prayer except for the very last step. The last step of mindless meditation allows the mind to accept thought, whereas contemplation wants the mind to remain in a state of openness to the the Holy Spirit in readiness and waiting for his special touch.

Just some thoughts.
Emptiness is not mindless meditation, but rather detaching from thoughts and images which are not the focus of our intention, which is being in the presence of God.

When a thought comes into our mind which draws our attention, we let it go. If we begin to provide commentary on the thought, we’re soon drawn away from quiet prayer and off on some tangent other than being with God.

That’s all emptiness in the context of Christian meditation means.

Jim
 
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